Stijn David

Hello John, And a shot of the rarely seen (as in most cases broken of) original catch Cordial greetings,

Hello, And here is a more close up picture of one of those typical cracks More to follow

Hi John, Thank you for hopping in towards this thread => i feel offcoarse very honoured that i might be the one who does own this small grouping from Uffz.X. I can asure you it is a thrill when such a thing happens and i will do everything to honour these glider veterans. ABout the lowlife who is doing his work => there is a initiative amongst the glider veterans who are still member so these have been informed. The threath does still remain however and i think it will always be that way, the sad perverse effect of the scarcity of these things and way they can be traded, etc..... it makes one wonder howmuch of the stuff that is ciculating arround is actually robbed first hand yesterday and sold the day afetrwards through a second person (for example a dealer ) who did also obtain it in good order and does sell it towards a collector in good faith. Quite a chain of problems for sure. Anyway, the person is known and i will be furtherly active in making his way of acting known => he has done already quite some damage and al for 1 simple reason => MONEY. And i think he is not the only one with no collecting ethics, we must realize that this will always remain a problem. But do not let that spoil our collecting fun my friends as honesty will always be much more rewarded in the long end ANd here as asked, the reverse of this precious Cordial greetings,

Hello, ANd here is the glider pilots badge. This piece is the actual awarded piece towards Gefr. X (later on Uffz.) from June 1942. It is a superbly conserved Type 2 made by the company of BSW. As in most cases this one is also unmarked. The badge is a Buntmetalpiece (both eagle and wreath), almost never worn => the reason for this is because the glider pilot was quite proud on his awarded badge and did obtain a second piece for wear, this one only did come out for more ornamental occasion (read not for daily use). The catch is also still present (quite rarely seen as when worn these BSW badges seems to be delicate on the catch and in quite a few cases that one did break of + was replaced. The glider pilot was later active in the mission of Drvar (against Tito and his partisans) + did survive quite well, he earned the followinga wards during WWII: * Lw. gider pilots badge (the shown piece) * Iron cross 2 nd. class * Lw. Erdkampfabzeichen * Croatian Ante Pavlcic bravery medal in Silver The last 3 awards where all for his actions in the Drvar mission. He survived and went in 1945 in Russian captivity (in fact in US captivity and was rendered a few days afterwards towards the Russian by US troops with many of his comrades.) and spent no less then 4 years in Russian POW camps. In 1949 he was released from captivity but could not return home (he was born in Silesia) and settled down in Western Germany. Once back in Germany he was able to find some of his relatives who where driven out of their homeland by the polisch gouvernement, there he did find back his mother and sister. His mother could save a few of her sons items (such as the award document + his awarded glider pilots badge) wich he had at home before 1945. So these items did survive the war and i have been honoured by the veteran in that way that i have received his precious pieces for safekeeping in the humble collection. ENjoy,

Hello Roman, Thanks for showing these bars => i have obtained the small ribbon bar of this set as i also love the L?H connection. Did you obtain the other bars as well that did come in this auction? Cordial greetings, ps: Iff you want to reunite this ribbon bar with its matching large brotehrs, feel free to drop me a PM (as they do belong togheter afterall) :rolleyes:

Hello, Very interesting thread for sure => thanks for starting it here Now a question about the 'Pavlcic' medals for bravery => you write " Then Followed by Gold Pavelic Medal approx 6 awarded One Located In Zagreb Museum whereabouts of other ? " Can this number be verifyed? What are the names of the awardee's?, what is the source of this interesting information? I ask because i know of the legacy of 1 gold one awarded towards a german glider pilot for his efforts in the Drvar (=> Tito) mission. I have another silver one also awarded towards a german glider pilot for the same action (unfortunatly no award document survived on this one). Cordial greetings + looking forward towards the info.

Hello dear forumfriends, After long preparations, research on other terrains, alot of work in the house, a voyage towards Greece, etc.... i had finally the opportunity to do my absolute favorite waste of time => travelling towards Germany and visit some of my glider friends. It was quite a trip, 3 days underway, meeting with approx. 9 glider pilot veterans and 2 daughters of 1 deceased glider friend. I had a superb time to say at least. Among the glider pilots i have met veterans of the following missions : Cholm, Drvar (Tito), Vassieux (against French resistance) , Sicily, etc... etc..... These guys are the absolute top for me and they always share many story's, etc.... In attachement the goodies that i managed to aquire for the collection as a gift from these glide rpilots: * Bordclock (Junghans) => taken from a damaged DFS230 by its pilot, kept safe for over 60 years and now in a belgian collection * Award document 'glider pilots badge' + the absolute pristine matching glider pilots badge (BSW) !!! Needles to say, i am a very happy with these little goodies More pictures to follow real soon ps: also did a terrible discovery, a vilain (German) is also visiting these veterans + has done damage once again => i have found more proof of this persons practices. He did change the original glider badge against a fake one. (And sadly enough the glide rpilot never became aware of this, he believes he has still his original awarde dpiece. This is the 3 thd. such case i am aware of. Such guys should be

Hello, Thank you for this very fine information => it seems you guys did find my guy So his complete name was: John Duncan McLaren and it seems he was with the 33 rd (Regiment? / Batallion?) MGC I have no experience at all with such medal cards. Is there any information on other awards from this brave soldier? Or does anyone know iff a unit history does exist for the unit as referred towrds? It would certainly be fun to know the act for wich he received the Military Cross. This soldiers award document has surfaced in Belgium, will try to get pictures of it to post here Cordial greetings,

Hello, Is there anyone who can give me more information on the following person: * J.D.McLaren, Temporary Second Lieutenant, Machine Gun Corps. He should have been awarded the MC on 4 june 1918. A few questions on this person: * Is this correct? * What otehr medals did he have? * Did he survive the war? * etc... All information is welcome and greatly appreciated Cordial greetings and thanks in advance,

Hello, I can announce that the L?H roll is complete => it is now towards the other gnomes for inspection, etc .... So, be patient my friends and one day you will see a book come out on it Cordial greetings, ps: i would like to transcribe the Bremen roll => so if any of you guys have, feel free to contact me :rolleyes:

Hello, Been a bit late in this thread => no match on L?H (and the roll is been completed => so either this one did not stand in the roll or you need to find another person. Cordial greetings,

Hello, @ Wessel: great picture => that officer is wearing the bullion version of the Silver C profiency badge. I am working on a book about the silver C profiency badge, will contact you about it Cordial greetings,

Hello, Yes, this person must have had his portion of action and certainly he did got the courage to do some extreme things His awards where: * EK 2 * Eastern front medal * Cholmschield * Lw. - Ground assault badge * 2 tank destruction badges When seing such pictures one does wonder what kind of hell these guys where involved in at some point. Now i am trying to find family of him. I do not know at this point the exatc time of his landing in Cholm, bu no worry's => that will come Cordial greetings,

Hello dear forumites, Here is a picture i was sent in a copy from a glider friend. The shown person was his Bordmechanic between 1942 and 1943. Ogefr. E.L. did fly into CHolm and did very well it seems. Once landed he was very actively involved in the Cholmbattle and he knocked out 2 sovjet Panzer's with T-Mines. For this action he earned his 2 tank distruction badges (as shown in the picture) and the EK 2. He was later KIA by a allied bomberattack on the airfield of Pratica di Mare in 1943. Cordial greetings

Hello, Im sorry, there is no person with that name to be found in the L?beck list Cordial greetings,

Hello, Even the cat thinks it is interesting => or am i mistaking and is a food tray for the cat Cordial greetings

another vieuw

Hello dear forumites, Here is a todays new entry, a Bakelite ashtray => and what is speical on that ? Well this one is made for the company that made the glider planes: Go 242, etc .. so i had to had this piece and that for a simple 10 ? Here are a few pictures

Hello, Thank you for showing that wonderfull medalbar. I have received the last part of the list and am working on it, just finished anotehr 1.000 names + i guess untill the summer the list will be complete Cordial greetings + feel free tos how what you got in this thread ps: yes, yes David, the scans will be sent towards you during the weekend to list a bit more

Hello, @ Paul: "I thought that all glider pilots were NCOs?" Nope, not correct, some where already in a officers rank when they did qualify for the glider pilots badge, several examples are known and one of the most prominent ones was for example : Egon Delica (who did win the KC ;-)), etc .... More examples can be given. Do not worry Rich => there are still multiple glider badges out there, however they do not come out easy, thats for sure Cordial greetings

Hello RIch, Very nice 'Fliegerbluse', congratulations on that one My suggestion => give the Fliegerbluse a Glider pilots badge Cordial greetings,

Hello Timmo (= Noor) Do you know if any silver markings or otehr marks are visible on the 'Militair ereteken'? Iff so that could give a indication on who did produce it and with that a idea on when it was approx. made. This medalbar has been shown once before in our SKF (http://www.skf-vzw.org ) newsletter back in 2005 iff im not mistaking. Thanks Heiko => i am so ashamed i did miss on that one , mondaymornings are not my best => you are correct offcoarse, that is the China medal. Cordial greetings,

Hello Noor, Very interesting medalbar isn't it I think that the clue is the belgian 'Miitair ereteken aka Decoration militaire'. Sadly for us there is no listed (read award lists, etc....) info yet found of awardings of these towards non belgian subjects. The Hamburg cross linked towards the Southwest medal can already produce a list, however expect it to be rather large. Then you still have to find that list (iff it exist => that is unkown at this point) and check all found Germans with the listing you have found. So, sadly at this point not tracable except with extreme luck Cordial greetings, ps: love that bar

Hello, I did just stumble upon another not listed flyer (at least i can't find him with O'COnnor), namely: Leutnant der Reserve Siemonsen Ferdinand - Flieger Abteilung (A) 44 He was awarded the L?H with date of 02/01/1918 Can anyone confirm this person? Cordial greetings, ps: Towards the moderating team, please merge this thread in the general L?h Thread, as it was supposed to be in that thread => My PC abbility's did make it a seperate thread

Hello, Is it possible that you made a typo? => in the heading you mention the Hamburg Hanseatic cross. In the actual question you mention the L?beck one. The info on the L?H ones is given in the L?beck roll thread ;-) Cordial greetings,