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Sure, here you go:

Chris, Based amongst other things on the paper and the script, I believe it is. Moreover, it would be a pretty stupid move for a seller who had the tunic altered not to remove a piece of paper describing the alteration. Everything is possible of course, including a seller using Sütterlin. But all in all, I'm pretty confident the note is period. Regards, Sandro

Interesting. Many thanks, AOK 4. MfG, Sandro

Gentlemen of the Club, Can I please sollicit your help in reading the text on the slip of paper shown in the pics? I found it in the pocket of a tunic I recently acquired. Many thanks in advance. Regards, Sandro

Thank you, AOK4, looks like we're closing in on him. The Ehrenrangliste on page 177 lists a Major ausser Dienst von Wegerer, and the 1919 Dienstaltersliste on page 30 lists a Hauptmann von Wegerer in (R?)IR 31, with a patent for the appointment to the rank of Hauptmann of 1 October 1913. Could both entries relate to our man? I will be interested in any info the RIR 31 history may contain on our man. Regards, and thanks again for all contributions sofar, Sandro

Glenn, Dave, thank you both for the information. Based on the info provided by Dave, I would agree that the notorious Alfred von Wegerer is out. Glenn's referense to the "other" Alfred von Wegerer makes a lot of sense. Is there any way to reconstruct the awardslist of the "other" Alfred? The Ranglisten I have don't provide much if anything on this point, so any pointers anyone can give me are much appreciated. Regards, and many thanks again to all who have contributed, Sandro

Many thanks Ulsterman, very helpful. I had stumbled upon references to Alfred von Wegerer searching the web, but have sofar been unable to make a connection with the tunic. An IR 31 regimental history could indeed provide us with the link we need. Regards, Sandro

Thanks Claudius, helpful and clear. Regards, Sandro

Thank you Claudius. You reconstruction of our man's career makes a lot of sense, but for my education, why definitely army, and not navy, for example? Regards, Sandro

Many thanks, Matt. I acted on a hunch in buying this one, and from the sound of it, did well in doing so. Regards, Sandro

Christophe, Sasha, Many thanks for the info and for your kind words, both very much appreciated. Christophe, I'll retrieve the bar from its display case this coming weekend to check whether the crown and swords device is indeed silver, and will let you know. Regards, Sandro

Gentlemen (ladies certainly not excluded), Can someone please help me "read" this recently acquired ribbon bar? The preussian and bavarian section are not a problem, and I have been told the last three ribbons are possibly for a Hessian award, and for the Hamburg and Lübeck hanseatic crosses.Your help in positively identifying the third ribbon from the right would be much appreciated. Any views on branch or career of the individual who orignally wore this bar would be great, and his identifictation would, of course, be most helpful. Many thanks in advance and regards, Sandro

Kapten-windu, Not sure, but there were of course close ties between the Dutch Royal House and the Grand Duchy of Mecklenburg (the Dutch prince-consort, prince Henry, Queen Wilhelmina's husband, of course hailed from Mecklenburg). In any event, it surely is a beautiful picture you have there. Would it be possible to post a close up of the Duke? Regards, Sandro

I have a bit more info, as someone was kind enough to send me a scan of the relevant pages of the 1913 Rangliste: the 1913 Rangliste lists von Wegerer as a Haupmann in IR 31, patent of 1.10.13. It further notes "S29s". If someone could help me understand the meaning of that last notation, or could give me furhter info on von Wegerer (full name, dates of birth and death, career, particularly the date of transfer to IR 31, post war career, decorations etc) that would be very much appreciated. Regards, Sandro

Many thanks Glenn, truly appreciated. I look forward to anything else you can point me to. For grins, I enclose a scan of the tailor's label (rarely found in (pre-)WWI era German tunics these days, mostly removed). Regards, Sandro

In an old posting, member Arb had von Wegerer down as serving with the reginment until 1913: "Wegerer, von* SL.-Oblt. 20.03.1899 5. GRzF 1899 1913" Regards, Sandro

Gents, I'm looking for career information for Hauptmann von Wegerer, 5. Garde Regiment zu Fuss. Based on the Ranglisten I have here, I can trace his career back to 1907, when he was listed as a Leutnant in 5. Garde Regiment zu Fuss, patent of March 20, 1899. The name tag on a 5. Garde Regiment zu Fuss tunic bears the name "Graf (?) v. Wegerer" and the date "14.4.11", which makes it likely that he also served in the 5. Garde Regiment zu Fuss at least until some time in 1911. There are several von Wegerer's listed in the 1914 Rangliste and Ehrenrangliste (a Hauptmann in IR 13 who seems to have ended the war as a Major ausser Dienst; a Hauptmann in IR 31 who similarly ended the war as a Major ausser Dienst; and a Hauptmann in IR 73 who also seems to have ended the war as a Major ausser Dienst. There is also a Generalmajor ausser Dienst named von Wegerer), but I cannot determine with certainty which, if any, of those he is. Any help you can give to complete the missing data between 1907 and 1919 is much appreciated. Any further info, for example on von Wegerer's decorations and possible post war career will also be of interest. Regards, Sandro

Nice decorations Christophe, thanks for sharing. Regards, Sandro

Many thanks Claudio, I know you do Well, I guess I'll just have to hit the books and hope for a stroke of luck then! Regards, Sandro

Hi Christophe, Yes, I was fortunate enough to be able to do so. Now, if only it could be attributed ..... Regards, Sandro

Thanks Sahsa. Any link on the Forum you can point me to? Or on WAF? Regards, Sandro

Vince, Yes, I am. Any help you or others on the forum can give me is much appreciated. Regards, Sandro

Many thanks, Chip. I think you're right, except that the second line seems to read "Prinz v. Bayern". Much appreciate the help. The signature looks authentic to me as well, but I cannot see the "groving" that I would expect to see on a dedication written in pen. Perhaps I'm wrong, and is it a handwritten dedication. Regards, Sandro

Gents, I would very much appreciate your help identifying this medal bar, if at all possible. I've searched GMiC for it, but unfortunately did not find it. Many thanks in advance, Sandro