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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
G-4 Super galeb (eng. Seagull) http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-43652500-1414259191.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-38533100-1414259284.jpg -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
You're welcome Most of the photos I uploaded so far were "found online", I will later post some of my own from the rehearsal but also couple of videos I uploaded on youtube. Weather was pretty bad, heavy rain, the best way to watch the parade was on TV. At least we had a rainbow. -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
Air Force Echelon 30 Paratroopers Jumping from Mi-8 Helicopters http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-53843200-1414255414.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-75469400-1414255415.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-35125200-1414255420.jpg -
I agree but I can't really determine what was exactly done with it. Front side is probably just painted like in the most of the cases. When it comes to the back side I don't remember seeing first classes with IKOM narrow screw nuts (that is one more proof that it's a doctored lower class). All of the screw types are numbered but the numbers are different on both IKOM and ZIN (ZNB) pieces - So 0323 was added later but if this was originally screw type what happened with the original number? When it comes to Merits for the People three figure numbers don't have zero in front of them! Roman numeral must have been added later as well. The best that I can think of is that someone took two lower class orders, one unnumbered needle type and one screw type and did the following: -Needle and the fighter were removed from the unnumbered type and number and Roman numeral were put on the back. -Front side was painted. -After that fighter with a screw was removed from the 2nd order and put on the 1st instead of the original one. And that's how you got first class IKOM narrow screw nut type with a strange number. To me it looks easier to remove needle than the original number, also if you take a look at the fighter on the front side you can see that it's slightly rotated to the right and that the color underneath it is not golden, could be because of glue or something like that.
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In order to avoid opening new topic every time I spot some fake I will post them all here. Here's the latest one from ebay - Order of Merits for the People 1st class. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yugoslavia-Order-of-the-National-Merit-with-Golden-Star-I-class-0323-/201199007621?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed8653785 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-06971400-1414248637.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-15809900-1414248677.jpg
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
RPČ-213, RPČ-214, RPČ-216, ČMP-22 (Rečni patrolni čamac - eng. River Patrol Boat) http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-68042000-1414193230.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-97662300-1414193233.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-97908700-1414195813.jpg -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
RML-341 "Novi Sad", RML-332 "Motajica", RML-336 "Đerdap", RML-335 "Vučedol" (Rečni minolovci klase Neštin - eng. Neštin Class River Minesweepers) http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-28123200-1414192801.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-80941500-1414192810.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-53869900-1414192819.jpg -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
RSRB-36 "Šabac" (Rečna stanica za razmagnetisanje brodova "Šabac" - eng. River Station for Ships Degaussing “Šabac”) -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
BPN-30 "Kozara" (Brod posebne namene "Kozara" - eng. Special Purpose Ship "Kozara") http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-07146800-1414192179.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-89837300-1414192189.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-93609200-1414192200.jpg -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
M-84A Main Battle Tank http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-23781700-1414165753.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-53272700-1414165762.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-63305500-1414165768.jpg http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-40247200-1414165774.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-42157000-1414165781.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-00014800-1414165789.jpg -
Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
BVP M-80A (Borbeno vozilo pešadije - eng. Infantry Fighting Vehicle) Armed with 2x Malyutka (AT-3) Missiles http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-21234600-1414165372.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-62019900-1414165378.jpg http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-48908500-1414165383.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-7937-0-15664100-1414165390.jpg -
First let me just congratulate you on getting one more of those very rare types! And this time even higher grade in perfect condition, simply amazing state. In my opinion same producer even though they are just slightly different which makes it even more interesting. Now that hallmark is great news! We had a discussion about 5th class and there were couple of "theories". First because of the lack of information about this particular type and not many of them being out there we thought it was made by certain Belgian producer (example like that, 3rd class, published in Car&Muhić book under unknown producers in cardboard box with inscription Piret Bruxelles). Huguenin was also mentioned because of similarities with one of their supposedly early pieces. If I remember well someone also mentioned it could be of French origin. That hallmark gave us answer, it is definitely French, now if we could only determine the producer, Rogi gave us some hints. Again my congrats and thanks for nice photos!
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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Serbia Military Parade "March of the Victorious"
paja replied to paja's topic in Southern European & Balkan States
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