JOCI Posted yesterday at 14:55 Posted yesterday at 14:55 1 hour ago, Stogieman said: Good Morning All! It’s nice to see this thread bumped up! JOCI, I’m pretty certain that a very long time ago I owned the exact BZL2mX and packet that you have shown here! Congratulations, as it’s a very special piece. Very hard to find with the packet. Makes one wonder about the war economy in Germany at the time that such a prestigious award was given out in a paper packet! Unfortunately, I’ve lost all my archives so I can’t confirm this thought, but the inscription is ringing a very loud bell in my head! Good morning! My dear friend! Thank you very much for your reply! The experts on this site are very friendly and knowledgeable! Please allow me, a young man, to be able to ask more questions and learn more from all the experts! It is indeed a beautiful collection. I understand that some of the BZ's cross arms material changed from tourmaline to green crystal to the green glass. Also I'm pretty sure that some of the lion parts on the back were replaced by silver instead of gold, and the certificates for BZ were simplified a lot, as you said it was the war that changed this. It is for this reason that I am basically sure my lions are gold, but not sure if the swords are gold. Now that I have confirmed the name and specific army position of the winner, I wish I could learn the fascinating story behind him. Also I learned about the website GenWiki, which may look up the list of awards from the BZ, but it's such a huge job that I had to ask for help from you experts. After all, this PAPER BAG is just a PACKAGE and not an official certificate. Here are the castle and the lion on my BZ, they are very beautiful. From the bottom of my heart I wish you all a wonderful day!
bolewts58 Posted yesterday at 14:59 Posted yesterday at 14:59 5 hours ago, JOCI said: Is the green part of the BZ just green glass? The glass used in the BZO was very high quality Venetian Murano glass from Venice.
landsknechte Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 15 hours ago, JOCI said: 1. Did you recognize the person as a lieutenant by the line above the name? 2. Where did you get the exact date of commissioning and can you tell me about his military career? 3. Was RIR 249 part of the Baden army and are there any records available? Yep. That's just the product of years of squinting at old German handwriting. I was able to track down a copy of an old book ("Verleihungen von militärischen Orden und Ehrenzeichen des Grossherzogtums Baden im Ersten Weltkrieg 1914-1918" by Erhard Roth) that listed the recipients of that award. The date isn't tied to his commission, it's the date of the award. I'm not enough of a Baden specialist to help out much beyond that.
JOCI Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago 11 hours ago, landsknechte said: Yep. That's just the product of years of squinting at old German handwriting. I was able to track down a copy of an old book ("Verleihungen von militärischen Orden und Ehrenzeichen des Grossherzogtums Baden im Ersten Weltkrieg 1914-1918" by Erhard Roth) that listed the recipients of that award. The date isn't tied to his commission, it's the date of the award. I'm not enough of a Baden specialist to help out much beyond that. Thank you very much for responding again! These artistic fonts are indeed difficult to read, it is so great that you can read them, you are a knowledgeable expert! Regarding RIR 249 I checked a series of references and the full name of RIR 249 is Reserve-Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 249.RIR 249 formed part of the 75. Reserve-Division, who fought against the Russians in the East line of World War I. So my guess is that the owner received this medal early in the war. I will continue to try to search for information about it, and I am honored to share information about RIR249! But regarding the book you mentioned, it is out of print, which makes it difficult for me to go looking for the original information. I have only been able to painstakingly search for additional records about 1918, would you mind sharing the information with this part of the information in the form of a picture? It is very important to me and I would appreciate it!😭 I kindly request you to send the original image information of this part and thank you again for your kind reply!
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