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    Came across this whilst surfing the net thought it might be of interest.......

    Egyptians To Sue 'The Jews'

    Over 'Stolen' Exodus Gold

    Egypt, the enlightened locale for last year's ''Protocols of the Elders of Zion'' television program, is now the source of even more anti-Semitic hatred. According to MEMRI.org, a group of Egyptians living in Switzerland, is planning to sue ''all the Jews of the world'' over gold that was allegedly stolen during the biblical exodus of the Israelites from Egypt. While this bigotry is infuriating, the utter ludicrousness of it all makes it read more like a comedy sketch. Seriously, you couldn't make this stuff up!

    The August 9, 2003 edition of the Egyptian weekly Al-Ahram Al-Arabi featured an interview with Dr. Nabil Hilmi, dean of the faculty of law at the University of Al-Zaqaziq. The following are excerpts from the interview:

    Dr. Hilmi: ''. Since the Jews make various demands of the Arabs and the world, and claim rights that they base on historical and religious sources, a group of Egyptians in Switzerland has opened the case of the so-called 'great exodus of the Jews from Pharaonic Egypt.' At that time, they stole from the Pharaonic Egyptians gold, jewelry, cooking utensils, silver ornaments, clothing, and more, leaving Egypt in the middle of the night with all this wealth, which today is priceless.''

    Question: ''What will the group of Egyptians in Switzerland do about this issue?''

    Hilmi: ''Dr. Gamil Yaken, vice president of the Egyptian community in Switzerland, came to Egypt to collect information. We set up a legal team to prepare the necessary legal confrontation aimed at restoring what the Jews stole a long time ago, to which the statute of limitations cannot possibly apply. Furthermore, [the theft] is based on their holy book, the same source on which they relied when they invaded other peoples.

    ''The Egyptian Pharaoh was surprised one day to discover thousands of Egyptian women crying under the palace balcony, asking for help and complaining that the Jews stole their clothing and jewels, in the greatest collective fraud history has ever known.

    ''The theft was not limited to gold alone. The thieves stole everything imaginable. They emptied the Egyptian homes of cooking utensils. One of the women approached Pharaoh, her eyes downcast, and said that her Jewish neighbor who lived in the house on the right of her house had come to her and asked to borrow her gold items, claiming she had been invited to a wedding. The Jewish neighbor took [the items] and promised to return them the next day. A few minutes later, the neighbor to the left knocked on the door and asked to borrow the cooking utensils, because she was having guests for dinner. Using this same deceitful system, they took possession of all the cooking utensils.''

    Question: ''It is clear why they stole the gold, but why the cooking utensils?''

    Hilmi: ''Taking posession of the gold was understandable. This is clear theft of a host country's resources and treasure, something that fits the morals and character of the Jews. Yet what was not clear to the Egyptian women were the reasons for stealing the cooking utensils, when other things may have been of greater value. However, one of the Egyptian priets said that this had been the Jews' twisted way throughout history; they seek to cause a minor problem connected with the needs of everyday life so as to occupy people with these matters and prevent them from pursuing them to get back the stolen gold...

    ''A police investigation revealed that Moses and Aaron, peace be upon them, understood that it was impossible to live in Egypt, despite its pleasures and even though the Egyptians included them in every activity, due to the Jews' perverse nature, to which the Egyptians had reconciled themselves, though with obvious unwillingness. Therefore, an order was issued by the Jewish rabbis to flee the country, and that the exodus should be secret and under cover of darkness and with the largest possible amount of loot. The code word was 'At midnight.' In addition, the Jewish women were told to steal the gold and cooking utensils of the Egyptian women, and that is what happened.''

    Question: ''Did they leave individually or as a group?''

    Hilmi: ''They left in a convoy of 600,000, that is, about 120,000 families. There were a few wagons in the convoy, and a long line of donkeys loaded with the stolen goods. They crossed the desert in the heart of Sinai, in an attempt to confuse Pharaoh's army, which was on their trail. Later they rested and began to count the stolen gold, and discovered that it reached 300,000 kg of gold.''

    Question: ''So what arguments can be made in support of getting back our stolen gold?''

    Hilmi: ''There are two types of claims, one religious and the other legal. From a religious standpoint, all monotheistic religions have called not to steal. It is also in the Ten Commandments, which the Jews were ordered [to observe]. Therefore, they have a basic religious obligation to return what was stolen, if it exists.

    ''From a legal standpoint, fleeing with the Egyptians' goods could be for the purpose of borrowing or for the purpose of stealing. If it is for the purpose of borrowing, legally it has a temporary dimension, not a permanent dimension, and therefore they must return [the gold], with interest, to its owners.

    ''On the other hand, if the Jews took the goods from the Egyptians not for the purpose of borrowing it but to keep them for themselves, by legal norms this is theft, and therefore they must return the stolen goods to their owners, in addition to the interest for its use over the entire period of the theft.''

    Question: ''What do you think is the value of the gold, silver, and clothing that was stolen, and how do you calculate their value today?''

    Hilmi: ''If we assume that the weight of what was stolen was one ton, [its worth] doubled every 20 years, even if the annual interest is only 5%. In one ton of gold is 700 kg of pure gold - and we must remember that what was stolen was jewelry, that is, alloyed with copper. Hence, after 1,000 years, it would be worth 1,125,898,240 million tons, which equals 1,125,898 billion tons for 1,000 years. In other words, 1,125 trillion tons of gold, that is, a million multiplied by a million tons of gold. This is for one stolen ton. The stolen gold is estimated at 300 tons, and it was not stolen for 1,000 years, but for 5,758 years, by the Jewish reckoning. Therefore, the debt is very large.

    ''The value must be calculated precisely in accordance with the information collected, and afterward a lawsuit must be filed against all the Jews of the world, and against the Jews of Israel in particular, so they will repay the Egyptians the debt that appears in the Torah.''

    Question: ''Is a compromise solution possible?''

    Hilmi: ''There may be a compromise solution. The debt can be rescheduled over 1,000 years, with the addition of the cumulative interest during that period.''

    Guest Darrell
    Posted

    If I was Israel ... I'd say ... "come and get it". And they'll kick their asses like they have the last 3 -4 times :rolleyes:

    Posted

    Source? The Onion??

    This makes The Onion sound like the Times of London!

    In a similar vein, a friend of mine was wont to point out - tongue wedged firmly in cheek - that Native North Americans were actually immigrants from Asia! :(

    "We oughta build a bridge across the Bering Strait and charge them Injuns $10 a head to go home."

    Remember, the two commonest elements in the galaxy are hydrogen and stupidity. :beer:

    Peter

    Posted

    Question: ''What will the group of Egyptians in Switzerland do about this issue?''

    Answer: We are asking the swiss to search their bank vaults for the gold, we know they hid it there, in the cuckoo clocks :P

    Question: ''It is clear why they stole the gold, but why the cooking utensils?''

    Answer: Well the wiley Jews knew that the Pharoahs Army marches on its stomach, so they hoped a hungry army would not have the stamina to catch them. :P

    Question: ''Did they leave individually or as a group?''

    Answer: "Well as a large individual group moving in a single mass, in one direction all at once. :P

    Question: ''So what arguments can be made in support of getting back our stolen gold?''

    Answer: Well its our's because we say so, and we want it back. After all we still have to pay off the ground rent on the valley of kings. :P

    Question: ''What do you think is the value of the gold, silver, and clothing that was stolen, and how do you calculate their value today?''

    Answer: Lots & Lots & Lots & Lots with additional Lots of intrest thrown in. :P

    Question: ''Is a compromise solution possible?''

    Answer: Oh! Yes we are not unreasonable people we will take the money with the gold and forget about the crime. :P

    All joking aside, downtown Cario street-booksellers I believe daily and in the open sell some of the most anti-semetic litriture in the world.

    Perhaps the Jewish comunity should launch a counter suit for Kidnap and Slavery :unsure:

    Kevin in Deva :beer:

    Posted (edited)

    Source? The Onion??

    Might have well have been the Onion here is the source:

    http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page...&ID=SP55603

    Okay if I remember my Bible studies and my comparitive religion studies, Allah is the God of Abraham and Moses, correct? During the Exodus while Moses was on the Mountain to receive the Laws of God the Isarelites in a fit of nervousness melted down most/all? the gold to make a graven idol. Moses upon seeing this threw down the tablets on the idol and the it went down into the open belly of the earth. SO, I think God kinda put the kabash on the whole thing. HE took the gold and only left the pots and pans behind. So I think the Egyptians have a better chance of suing God. :P

    I've been poking around and this story is 3 years old, anybody find an update?

    Edited by coastie
    Guest Rick Research
    Posted

    The Canadians have already tried arresting God and couldn't get him extradited. :rolleyes:

    From an item I sent in which was published in the late lamented magazine' "Punch" in the "Country Life" column back then--

    (News Item: Scranton (PA) Times, June 28, 1980)

    ?God?s Status Questioned in Canadian Fire Trial

    VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP)?The British Columbia Court of Appeal is trying to determine if God is a person.

    The court is being asked to overturn the May 1979 acquittal in Prince George County Court of Morris Davie on charges of counseling two others to set a forest fire near the remote Fort Ware Indian reserve in northern British Columbia.

    A police sergeant said he saw Davie drop to his knees and pray: ?Oh God, please let me get away with it, just this once.?

    The county court ruled that a prayer was a private conversation between two people and therefore privileged and could not be used as evidence in court.

    Prosecution lawyer Peter Ewart argued Thursday the prayer should be admissible as evidence because God is not a person but a theological or a spiritual being.

    ?The question is whether or not, under the circumstances, the words uttered by the accused constituted a private conversation. For communication, there must be two persons,? he said.

    Ewart said that if God is a person then many acts of God, such as blizzards, floods or droughts that damage property or take life, would be violations of the Criminal Code of Canada.?

    Made me ?4 or so, as I recall. (It really does PAY to have cousins everywhere.)

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