Pakistan

[ilja559]

Hi to all.Has bought medals. In OMSA medalbase on BADR MEDAL medals has seen, that Ed write -"Taylors copy". What it for copies?Thanks.Ilja

[Ed_Haynes]

Sorry, but I have no idea what you are asking. Do you want identifications?

Would like to help, but . . . ?????

[Rich]

Maybe he's asking what a Tailor's Copy is?

(In which case, it's a reproduction of an official medal made by a private company.)

[Gerd Becker]

Ed, i think, Ilja is asking, how to distinguish a Taylors Copy of a BADR Medal from an awarded Medal.

best,

Gerd

[ilja559]

Maybe he's asking what a Tailor's Copy is?

Yes, I asked it. Has bought these medals on eBay and it seems to me that it is copies. But two medals with a name. Or make a copy with a name too?Ilja

[Riley1965]

Ilja,

What is the name and numbers on the medal?

Doc

[Ed_Haynes]

OK, let me try . . . .

When medals have been approved, and maybe authorised, but not issued, military tailors fill the gaps by making medals that are (approximately) in the right design and selling them to serving personnel who want to (or have been told to) mount up their medals. This is especially the case when contemporary medals are issued unnamed (as they are in Pakistan). As far as I know, the Badr Medal has not been officially issued, though your specimen looks very good and may well be legitimate. It would be the first I have seen. Maybe the Pakistani Mint has been hard at work? (Or the tailors are making better copies?) Tailors' copies are available in Pakistan, quite easily, at Rs. 30 or Rs. 40 each (approximately $0.60 US). These FLOOD e$cam.

Most of your medals, "ilja599", look good. I'd like a closeup on your General Service Medal (Tamgha-i-Diffa) as the clasp is unclear. I assume all are unnamed?

I have never seen a tailor's copy named for a Pakiatni medal, though Indian military tailors have started offering naming services for their patrons ( ).

The naming you show looks like normal nbaming for a Pakistan Medal 1947 ("Independence Medal"). These are the only Pakistani medal to have been routinely named. (Blast!)

[ilja559]

Ed,thank for the answer.

I have two medals with names-

MT/6557705 SEP MUNSIF KHAN R.P.A.S.C.

MT/6556076 L/NK G-AIZULLAH JAN R.P.A.S.C.

Closeup medal too.

[Riley1965]

Ilja,

To me, It looks like a genuine medal.

Doc

[ilja559]

2.

[ilja559]

Thanks,Doc

[Ed_Haynes]

Interesting, and looks quite good to me too. The Tamgha-i-Diffa (General Service Medal) is for Siachen Glacier, the most recent (and rarest) of the clasps for this medal. Nice things you have.

[ilja559]

Thanks Ed.

[Riley1965]

Thanks Ed!!! I missed the rare clasp. I'm learning...I have a good teacher

Doc

[Ed_Haynes]

Thanks Ed!!! I missed the rare clasp. I'm learning...I have a good teacher

Doc

Hey, all you need to do is read Urdu. No biggie.

[ilja559]

Im sorry,what Urdu mean?

[Ed_Haynes]

The national language of Pakistan, the language in which the legends on these medals and clasps is written.

[Dave Danner]

Is the Urdu word for glacier really "glaysheer"?

[Ed_Haynes]

Is the Urdu word for glacier really "glaysheer"?

No, Dave, that is the Angrezi shabd [the "English word"] rendered into Urdu.

[ilja559]

Wanted to learn Spanish, but now I shall learn urdu.