Stogieman Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 ... but despite the 875- Euro bid, someone will be very disappointed perhaps? This cross while of obvious quality, does not match the characteristics of the three Wagner PLM's in my archives. Comments? Opinions? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Schießplatzmeister Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Dear Stogieman:It seems as thought the forgers are stepping-up their efforts!While the "right marks" are in the right places, and the eagles look nice, the piece is a modern forgery without a doubt. I'm sure that we will see a lot more of these in the near future!Best regards,"SPM" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Feliz Navidad de Espa?a!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Tezer Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 It seems as thought the forgers are stepping-up their efforts!Actually, I believe I have seen one of these before, several years ago. So maybe it's not a new effort. The one I remember was a cast copy, with a very shiny gilt finish, but I was amazed at the quality of the detail in the eagles and how close they were to the originals. I did not save any photos of it, but this looks like it might be the same type. Obviously, whoever added the "W" mark was named William, or Walter, or Warren or something. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Yes! A Spanish copy, right? Eagles that look like Woody the Woodpecker, in a beret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) This is most definitely not a Wagner PLM......but neither is it the 'Spanish fake' as we currently know it.Marshall Edited January 3, 2007 by Biro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 This is most definitely not a Wagner PLM......but neither is it the 'Spanish fake' as we currently know it.MarshallMarshall,That was my take on this one also. It's not any of the Wagner types (gold or silver-gilt). Tim could be right that this is an older cast copy. The current Spanish copy has a squared off look to it. For example, on this one, the eagle heads are rounded instead of having the large flat "back" of the heads with hard right angles of the current Spanish copy. There also seem to be other slight differences such as the interior bend of the wings (the protuberance on the bend of the wings seen on the Spanish copy); the "blocky" fonts, thicker/thinner legs, etc.Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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