Sachsen-Meiningen, WWI medal bars with SMK

[saschaw]

Rick Research said:

Oh for those please start a new thread. That would be very nice! I have never seen those before!

Hmm, I'm sorry, but I thought to have some more, but I had a big data loss two years ago which seems to have taken also some nice bars from my database ...

 

So here are all bars with "Sachsen-Meiningen, Ehrenzeichen für Verdienst im Kriege" that I found on my PC, including also some of members of this forum. If someone doesn't like me to show a bar in his posses here, please contact me to remove these pictures. My apologize to those I cannot name the owner, but I cannot remember anything to every bar.

 

First, the 20 place ribbon bar of Friedrich Freiherr von Dincklage-Campe (1839-1918) which used to belong Heiko:

 

 

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[saschaw]

The 19 place ribbon bar of Generalmajor Hans-Richard Lorenz (1879-1968).

 

My apologize, I cannot remember in whose collection it is ...

 

 

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The 13 place medal bar to Generaloberst Heye, and again no idea whose ...

 

 

 

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A 8 place medal bar that has been sold at Hermann Historika, Munich, if I remember correctly for 3.200,- Euro:

 

 

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[saschaw]

A group with a 13 place bar:

 

 

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[saschaw]

A quite interresting 9 place medal bar that has been sold on Ebay Germany for 346,- Euro:

 

Seems to be one of those Feldwebels or similar, probably no officer ...

 

(and I used to think it was not kosher )

 

 

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[saschaw]

Encore some pictures of it:

 

 

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This veeery nice Württemberg bar probably used to have a Merit cross, not the medal ...

 

 

 

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Another one from Ebay Germany:

 

(sold for ~2.000,- Euro).

 

 

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[saschaw]

A little ribbon bar I sold on ebay for 20,- Euro:

 

 

 

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[saschaw]

A 5 place bar with the only non-combattant ribbon I have saved. The last ribbon might rather be for an Ottoman War Medal than for the Hamburg Hanseatic Cross ...

 

 

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[saschaw]

A "more than nice" bar with German East Africa:

 

 

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[saschaw]

This one seems still to be available (emedals) for US $950.- ...

 

Much money, but how often do you see such a nice and interresting bar?

 

 

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[saschaw]

A detail:

 

 

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One from my father's collection:

 

 

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Its back:

 

 

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And last but not least: the matching chain, made by Meybauer:

 

In my humble opinion, the SMK is one of the most attractive awards of World War One ...

 

 

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[Mike Dwyer]

Some very beautiful medal bars there!

[Deruelle]

Hi,

Very nice medals bar. Please find some ribbon bar with SMK ribbon

Regards

Christophe

[Deruelle]

Another one

[Deruelle]

Another one

[Deruelle]

Another one

[Guest Rick Research]

Oh yes. A lot of these are going to be "name-able" when the roll is done and I have also finished the Meiningen Ernestine rolls-- which should be next month.

I just passed 50% of the "SMK" roll today and am just into May 1916. That's right-- a full HALF of the awards had been given in the first year they were available, with 2 1/2 more years to go for the remaining half. That is why I suspect the ZINK ones will turn out to be much rarer than the beautiful chocolate bronze version.

I need to not only finish that last 50% of the roll, but also actually enter the Meiningen Ernestines, but it LOOKS as if Meiningen MIGHT have bestowed one--OR the other., NOT both. And a suspicion grows on me that the 1917-18 Meiningen Ernestine rolls are NOT 'missing," but that awards of the very expensive enamel and silver House Order and its medals simply... faded away for war economy reasons. That will require examining all three Ernestine rolls to see if any can be found in Rank Lists etc which are NOT on the rolls-- and would presumably be "missing" 1917-18 Meiningens.

I've had this one identified to Oberleutnant dR Karl Stracke of Inf Rgt 83 (22. Inf Div-- WWaldeck and Meiningen) from the double Waldeck awards and HHOX:

His name has not turned up yet in the first 50%.

HHOX in the MWB of 26.10.18 (Oberleutnant dR)

Waldeck VK3 X 20.1.15 as Lt dR IR 83

Waldeck VK 4X 3,10,14 ditto

There doesn't seem to be anybody else with double wearable Waldeck Xs and a HHOX. If I don't find Stracke in the SMK roll, then at least I'll go through IR 83 and RIR 83 to see if I can match a "double" with an SMK-- and assume this is a Missing HHOX person.

Couple of weeks and the whole SMK roll will be transcribed.

[Deruelle]

Rick,

Concerning the double Waldeck orders and Saxe Meiningen, we can find Hauptmann Sch?nemann who got the Hohenzollern medals too. What do you thing about this officer ?

Christophe

[Guest Rick Research]

Sch?nemann also had HT and ?M3K, so not him.