11 Place Bayern Ribbon Bar

[Paul C]

I have just return from the SOS in Louisville, KY. There was not much in the way of Imperial medal or ribbon bars. I did manage to pick up this 11 place Bayern ribbon bar. My best guess is that it is to a civilian servant in the Bayern army. It is very interesting to see the SWA ribbon on a Bayern bar. As best as I can determine the ribbon are:

1. 1914 EK2

2. bayern MMO or MVO w/o swords

3. Red Cross

4. Hindenburg w/swords

5. SWA

6. Bayern Long Service for 40, 35 or 25 years

7. Third Reich Long Service - Gold or Silver clasp

8.? (long service)

9.? (long service) it looks gray but I think it should be blue

10.Bayern Jubilee

11.Kronprinz Rupprecht Medal 1925-33 or Abzeichen der Ordensbeamten (nr. 343 in Nimmergut ribbon book)

Any comments are appreciated.

[webr55]

Very nice! I would think #8 is a faded Red Cross/Volkspflege, and #9 looks like it could be a faded Bavarian Voluntary War Aid Cross. Of course, red cross awards do not necessarily indicate a doctor, but in this case, with the accumulation of several ones - maybe a reserve doctor?

[Guest Rick Research]

Very nice indeed! After the 3rd Reich civil service 25 I agree-- that is a 1922+ Red Cross/Volkspflege Decoration, then the Bavarian Volunteer Care of the Sick, military Jubilee and the Rupprecht Medal in Bronze for die-hard royalists.

Extremely nice and absolutely no way to tell from this whether an extraordinarily well decorated NCO or an officer.

[Paul C]

Thanks for the help.

[Ulsterman]

what does the rupprecht medal look like?

[landsknechte]

Very nice find!! Can you poke and prod carefully on the back side of #8 and determine if the caramel colored front turns into a red where it's buried underneath the backing?

[Paul C]

Acutally nr. 8 still looks rather orange underneath the backing.

[Kev in Deva]

what does the rupprecht medal look like?

Hallo Ulster,

this one just sold on Ebay USA:

For just over 60 dollars just my luck to be traveling and no chance to bid

It came in three types, Bronze, Silver and Gold I believe.

Kevin in Deva.

[Ulsterman]

Thanks Kev!

[landsknechte]

Acutally nr. 8 still looks rather orange underneath the backing.

The 1922+ Red Cross/Volkspflege is the only think that I can think of that's even vaguely close. Perhaps faded as a result of unstable dyes (think how often you see that same red shift on the Czech Flower Wars ribbon), more than light.