Bavarian 2X

[Steve K.]

Can anyone help identify the last medal?

Thanks,

Steve

[Stogieman]

Bavarian Jubilee Medal, ribbon slightly faded.

[Stogieman]

PS, AWESOME example of the MVK ca. 1905

[Steve K.]

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something exotic that I had overlooked. Unfortunately I didn't win the auction, but a good one for the photo archive!

[Schießplatzmeister]

Hello Stogieman and Steve:

I do not believe that the second place ribbon is for a Bavarian 1905 Jubilee medal. It appears to be a red ribbon with white stripes. I do not think that it is Bavarian, but perhaps something else?

Best regards,

"SPM"

[saschaw]

For sure not the ribbon for the Bavarian Jubilee Medal, but presumably something exotic.

Maybe something from Greece?

[pluribus]

Hello,

Looks like a ribbon to the Imperial Russian Order of St.Stanislaus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Saint_Stanislaus

Here is the original ribbon of Imperial Russian order.

pluribus

Edited April 27, 2007 by pluribus

[Schießplatzmeister]

Hello Pluribus:

Good observation, I was thinking the same thing. It does look like St. Stanislaus Order ribbon. Would any of our other Imperial Russian Order collectors care to comment?

If it IS St. Stanislaus, this would be a very unusual group.

Good observation Saschaw a Grecian award would make more sense politically.

Best regards,

"SPM"

[saschaw]

Hm, you might be right. You are right, if the stripes are white, but to me, they seemed to be a very light blue.

[Guest Rick Research]

Huh!

A military pair...

neither an 1897 Centenary Medal (if a Prussian) nor a 1905 Luitpold Jubilee Medal (if a Bavarian)...

so from around 1900, either way a few years.

Definitely a Russian St Stanislaus 3rd Class.

Now, what is interesting, and causing me to waffle on specifics, is that the bar would NOT have belonged to a Bavarian alive after 1905-- he'd have updated with the Luitpold Jubilee. And if a Bavarian recipient had died befoe 1905-- the MVO would have been returned to the Orders Chancery.

But my best guess would be a dead NON-Bavarian recipient who never returned the MVO. No way of knowing if the Stanislaus was officially returned or removed last week. But the lack of any OTHER awards on this bar, with that early model Bavarian MVO, would lead me to think pre-1897 and dead before then. It wouldn't be at all common to find that as a lone German military officer's award.

Hauptmann Polst of Inf Rgt 52, here circa 1905, also died before the war:

[Yankee]

Thanks. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't something exotic that I had overlooked. Unfortunately I didn't win the auction, but a good one for the photo archive!

Steve with the Saint Stanislaus it would be a bit exotic & the order is fairly common to find. The Bavarian Military Merit Order knight 2nd class is more rare. Thanks for the foto always neat to see a beautiful example.

Sincerely

Yankee