W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Hello,A rather rarely seen tunic is presented, that of a Justice official in pre-1942 configuration. Prior to 1942 Justice officials/court baliffs wore "Justice" green tunics with carmine piping, hidden front buttons and gold fittings.The cap shown with the tunic is that worn after 1942 by both Justice and Prison officials. In 1942 the carmine piping was dropped and both used green piping. The cap band is black. The pre-1942 cap would have had carmine piping. Unfortunately these have all been converted by dealers into Waffen SS piped panzer schirmmutzen, so the chances of finding one in original condition are next to nothing.This tunic was worn with black breeches or trousers.These tunics are unique in that NO sleeve eagle, arm band or any other "national" emblem was worn on the tunic. It is the ONLY TR period government official's tunic that I am aware of that did not incorporate any eagles or swastikas into the insignia (other than the small cap eagle and belt buckle). Edited July 23, 2007 by W.Unland
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Here is a view of the back showing the typical, old fashioned, police style "rock" construction.
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) A closer view of the front showing the typical "hidden" button closure.These tunics had a color scheme unique in German tunics. It incorporated gold , green, and carmine, all on the same uniform. Very unusual, particularly the shoulder boards. Also notice how the boards sit in the "middle" of the shoulders and not along the sleeve seam......very unusual. Edited July 23, 2007 by W.Unland
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 This tunic has some very unusual features. The collar is really an imperial style stand-up collar with artificial front to simulate a more modern style. The collar is sewn down and is off white burlap type of material, rather than lined in the tunic material as might be expected.
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) The top patch pockets also have an unusual biased cut along the lower edge. Edited July 23, 2007 by W.Unland
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Also, the shoulder boards are attached using an imperial prussian style metal attachment rather than the more typical cloth loops.
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 This tunic is shown with a pre-1936 style Prussian Justice official's service belt.
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Lastly here is a closer view of the cap and tunic showing how closely the color of the materials match.This color is unique to the Justice/prison services. Not quite "police" green, and not quite field gray.
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Here is the "Justice" green next to a "police" green to demonstrate the difference in color.Regards,William Unland
Paul R Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 That is one attractive uniform. Carmine really does look sharp! I have always wondered about the lack of the swastica insignia on the tunics. Was this intentional?
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 (edited) Hello,I don't know. Judges wore national eagles, and most of the political groups who didn't wore armbands. These are the ONLY armed branch of the government that I know of who wore no national emblem or swastika. Why??? Prussian tradition perhaps, or oversight. No idea, but even in the 1942 regulations there is NO eagle worn. Even the Post Office and Train conductors wore eagles, but not these guys.....and they carried guns!I would have made a guess that somehow the "justice" ministry was "above" politics, but since judges wore eagles that doesn't make any sense.Regards,Bill Unland Edited July 23, 2007 by W.Unland
joe campbell Posted July 23, 2007 Posted July 23, 2007 billwhile not a uniform afficionado, a very well done,concise presentation.my thanks for the tour!joe
W.Unland Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Thank you for the kind words.Regards,Bill U
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