Soviet Dzerzhinsky's 130th birthday

[Christian Zulus]

Gentlemen,

as already mentioned in GMIC-post http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=203201 we celebrate today the 130th birthday of Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Dzerzhinsky

Our "Iron Felix" had been one the brightest figures of Socialism in the 20th century. Born into a noble family of Jewish-Polish aristocrats in Belarus, he emerged as one of the key-figures of Soviet Russia in the early years of Lenin & Stalin.

Comrade Stalin spoke at his (early) death in 1926:

"When now, at the open coffin, one recalls the entire path Dzerzhinsky traversed - prison, penal servitute, exile, the "Extraordinary Commission to Combat Counter-Revolution", the restoration of the ruined transport, the building of the young socialist industry - one feels, that this seething life can be expressed in one word: burning. Burning, and heroic valour in combating difficulties."

"Dzerzhinsky's fine personality, his iron will, his boundless devotion to the people, his heroism, will forever serve as an example to coming generations." ("Soviet Calendar", Moscow 1947)

Best regards

Christian

Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus

[Riley1965]

All the Best on the 130th Anniversary of Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky's Birthday!!!

Doc

[Christian Zulus]

All the Best on the 130th Anniversary of Felix Edmundovich Dzerzhinsky's Birthday!!!

Doc

Dear Doc,

many thanks for your congratulations to comrade Dzerzhinsky's birthday .

Dzerzhinsky did a lot for Russian orphans, as the Soviet history showed to us: http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2005/11/09/67329.html

Best regards

Christian

Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus

[Christian Zulus]

Another picture of comrade Dzerzhinsky with an early RB on his coat:

Edited September 11, 2007 by Christian Zulus

[Christian Zulus]

A Monument to Felix Dzerzhinsky (Faculty of the Border Troops of the Military Academy of the Republic of Belarus) was unveiled on May 26, 2006:

Official announcement of that ceremony:

"16.05.2006

Unveiling of the monument to F. Dzerzhinsky will be held on the Eve of the 88-th anniversary of the Border Guards

On the 26-th of May on the eve the Day of a Border Guard Man a meeting dedicated to the ceremony of the unveiling of the monument to F. Dzerzhinsky will be held at the faculty of the border guards of the educational establishment ?The Military Academy of the Republic of Belarus?. F. Dzerzhinsky, Soviet statesman and party figure born in Belarus who put much effort and energy into consolidation and improvement of the border guards as well as teaching and training for border guard personnel.

The right to unveil the monument to F. Dzerzhinsky will be granted to a border guard veteran and a faculty cadet.

Chief of the state Border Guard Committee of the Republic of Belarus Lieutenant-General Alexander Pavlovsky, veterans, cadets of the border guard faculty and guests will take part in the ceremony.

Maxim Semyonov

Information providing service

Web-site of the State Border Guard Committee"

http://gkpv.gov.by/en

Edited September 11, 2007 by Christian Zulus

[order_of_victory]

I will be raisng a glass of Vodka in a few moments time to the great man

Order of Victory

[Belaruski]

A belated acknowledgement from myself!

Please all read Dzerzhinsky's prison letters and diary (available from amazon etc.) to get some insight into this man.

[Nick]

I have received a number of complaints about the content of this topic and I have also been a little disturbed by the overt political propagandist nature of this thread. GMIC tries hard to be apolitical, although it is accepted at times the nature of human conflict is so intrinsically intertwined with politics it is sometimes hard, if not impossible to leave politics at the door, especially when discussing 20th Century history.

However to hear such blatantly challenging comments as

Dzerzhinsky's fine personality, his iron will, his boundless devotion to the people, his heroism, will forever serve as an example to coming generations

Dzerzhinsky did a lot for Russian orphans

pushes the boundaries to the limit.

Without a doubt Dzerzhinsky is a notable figure of the 20th Century and it is right that we acknowledge the 130th anniversary of his birth. But he falls along side many notable and notorious figures of the 20th Century, who should never be forgotten, but are clearly not acceptable subjects (in an international forum) for comments of hero worship nor should they be placed on a pedestal as a shining example to new generations. Dzerzhinsky is a figure of the past and has no place in a modern world. Such platitudes are not acceptable at GMIC especially with the track record of human rights abuses behind the organizations which Dzerzhinsky founded and represents. I can only think that your comments in relation to orphans was an attempt at dry wit, as I am sure Dzerzhinsky was both directly and indirectly responsible for making many Russian children orphans.

I do not want this subject to turn into further political debate nor do I want to have to censor or delete any posts. This is just a reminder to all members as to what the acceptable boundaries are on political subjects within this forum

[Christian Zulus]

Sorry, .... I did a big mistake

"When now, at the open coffin, one recalls the entire path Dzerzhinsky traversed - prison, penal servitute, exile, the "Extraordinary Commission to Combat Counter-Revolution", the restoration of the ruined transport, the building of the young socialist industry - one feels, that this seething life can be expressed in one word: burning. Burning, and heroic valour in combating difficulties."

Dzerzhinsky's fine personality, his iron will, his boundless devotion to the people, his heroism, will forever serve as an example to coming generations.

Dear Chairman,

dear Nick,

I feel very sorry, because I did a big mistake in forgetting to post the last sentence as a historic quotation and to list the source .

That last sentence is a historic view & official propaganda statement from the CCCP-government in the year 1947 and not my own political statement.

The above posted part of my thread is taken 1:1 from that CCCP-propaganda-book from 1947 and is the end of the entry in that book about the "Iron Felix":

http://cgi.ebay.ch/Soviet-Calendar-Thirti-...bayphotohosting

and

http://www.antiqbook.co.uk/boox/colle/14351.shtml

Your other mentioned part in my posting - "Dzerzhinsky did a lot for Russian orphans" - has no political message at all, it is just a proven historic fact, like: "Churchill smoked cigars" or "Hitler loved German shepard dogs".

Sorry again, for forgetting the quotation, but I didn't want to make political propaganda with Dzerzhinsky, only to remind the 130th birthday of one of the historic key-figures of the early years of the CCCP and the Civil War.

Best regards

Christian

BTW: I already edited the two mentioned postings in your sense.

Edited September 13, 2007 by Christian Zulus

[Christian Zulus]

Felix Dzerzhinsky "loved Christ", reports a newspaper

Gentlemen,

the Christian daily newspaper "Ecumenical News International" from Switzerland reported on the 26th of july 2006, that Dzerzhinsky wanted to become a Catholic priest, before he got Marxist:

http://www.eni.ch/articles/display.shtml?06-0597

In the same report it is writen:

"In recent years, some ultraconservative Russian Orthodox groups have suggested that Soviet dictator Josef Stalin should be declared a saint."

Well, comrade Stalin had an academic education as an Orthodox priest already .

Maybe the Orthodox Church presents us in a few years their new holy person: Saint Stalin .

Best regards

Christian

BTW: Had been Alexander Nevsky converted to a saint by the Orthodox Chruch ?