James Clark Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) Hello I'm really stuck on what the two ribbons between the 1914-18 cross and the long service awards might be on this man's ribbon bar. Edited November 8, 2007 by James Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Clark Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) This is the best I can get of the bar. After the 1914-18 cross I see a ribbon of one light colour (light blue? yellow?) then a light ribbon with two darker stripes (red stripes on white?). Any ideas? The final three ribbons are the WWI commemorative medals of Hungary, Austria and Bulgaria (in that order). Edited November 8, 2007 by James Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 If the original photo si that bad no clue.What is equally intriguing is that he appears to be wearingcontrary to all regulations and sensethe ribbon for a SUDETENLAND ANNEXATION MEDAL ribbon under the KVK2(X) in his buttonhole!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 What is equally intriguing is that he appears to be wearingcontrary to all regulations and sensethe ribbon for a SUDETENLAND ANNEXATION MEDAL ribbon under the KVK2(X) in his buttonhole!!! Maybe too cheap to buy a new ribbon bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Clark Posted November 8, 2007 Author Share Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) If the original photo si that bad no clue.What is equally intriguing is that he appears to be wearingcontrary to all regulations and sensethe ribbon for a SUDETENLAND ANNEXATION MEDAL ribbon under the KVK2(X) in his buttonhole!!! I've managed to replace the full picture with a better scan, but can't do any better on the ribbon bar. The Sudetenland medal ribbon at the button hole is certainly unusual. But the other thing that attracted me to this picture was the blob above the eagle emblems on the long service ribbons. I'm pretty sure that this is the 40 year oak-leaves device being worn above and between the two eagles rather than below the first eagle. Edited November 8, 2007 by James Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 I thought that was simply a 'splotch" as originally posted, but the clearer scan makes me think that you are right-- it's a "40" wreath OVER and centered between the 2 eagles!!!!! Crossed cannons on his boards?I cannot find an Oberstleutnant (W) at beginning of WW2 who matchs any possible combination from the Reichsheer.A very nice EPSON SCAN of that ribbon bar, made directly at Nice Large Size with no fiddling around resizing pixels, might help substantially.I can't think of any other branch that fist the shade Waffenfarbe he's wearing with this low a rank possible after 40 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Clark Posted November 9, 2007 Author Share Posted November 9, 2007 These are the best my scanner will do without having to resize or adjust in some other way. I don't think they're much better. I'd hoped the order of precedence might help - there seem to be a fairly limited number of possibilities of what is supposed to appear after the 1914-18 cross and before long service awards. But I don't know how this works in reality. I'm sure he has some sort of device on his right shoulder board but it just isn't visible enough even under magnification to even take a decent guess at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 That third one is a complete loss. The 4th one, if I had to guess, I'd think was the Prussian General Decoration Medal in Silver-- same ribbon as the Red Eagle Order (2 orange stripes on white). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwwils Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 (edited) Could this man be a TSD officer? I'm not sure how the cornflower blue arm-color would transfer in black-and-white, but the device on his boards could be the winged-scepter. The 40 years device and the rank would make sense then (a late-war career Oberfeldintendant). Edited November 10, 2007 by Andwwils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Could be... but the general impression I get is of an early war uniform--that weird Sudeten in the buttonhole, and the pre-war bullion cap wreath with metal cockade and eagle.I'd guess more circa 1940/41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andwwils Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 He could be a career veterinairy or judicial officer. Promotions in those two branches would have been especially slow during the inter-war years and both would have had the obligatory shoulder board devices as well. Early war is my gut-feeling too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Clark Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 Thanks for all your views. Unfortunately there is nothing more I can say about the picture as there is nothing on the back and short of the miraculous software seen on CSI I don't think it's possible to get anything else from the picture. The third ribbon is almost certainly one plain, light colour and there is probably a device on his shoulder boards in addition to a single rank pip but that's as far is it will go I'm afraid. Still, I hope you found it interesting.James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev in Deva Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Hallo Gents, any possibility that the third ribbon is missing a "device",seems to my eyes there is a dark spot in the centre.Kevin in Deva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Clark Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 I see the speck you mean, but no, I don't think it's a hole in the ribbon for a device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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