NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 More that I forgot was there... Here's a nice photo of Tolkachev in Port Arthur in front of the Museum of Oriental Culture with a couple of his friends on 22 March 1953.
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 BTW... Did I mention I hate "flood control"??? Here's another photo from the group of some Chinese officers.
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Here's the inscription on the back of the photo. I can't read it all as the handwriting is so poor. A translation would be appreciated.....
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Here are two photos of Chinese officers that were also in with his group.
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 And the last post.Here's the back of the two Chinese officer photos. Dave
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 Here's another photo from another group (which has since dissapeared... not the group, but all the paperwork!) Anyway, this fellow (an air force technician) is wearing two Chinese Friendship medals and the Korean War medal...
NavyFCO Posted January 20, 2006 Posted January 20, 2006 I love keeping old scans.... Here are his Chinese medals (front)
Gerd Becker Posted January 21, 2006 Posted January 21, 2006 WOW!!! Is that the gold finished front like the plain reverse style, or the coppery front found on dated ones? It looks like there is a good amount of gilt finish on thiscompletely new and unknown type!!!!! Here it is, Rick. Its gold finished obviously.Gerd
Guest Rick Research Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Weird ribbon too! I have that same whatever it was ribbon on one of my "normal" gold/plain backs.An unknown variation on an unknown ribbon! Dave: the training group scribbles I don't get much beyond that they ARE Chinese "NKOA" studying ...with Soviets... and ending with what appear to be your Colonels initials in order of last name, first name, patronymic. ?????
Lingqi Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Pochupaylo page 2 with his name filled in in Cyrillic. The text in the first line, running down the far right column, refers to something about a 35th year (anniversary of Chinese Communist Party ? ), while down near the bottom of the second from right column is something else about 3 years-- a reference to "sceret" collaboration during the Korean War? I'm afraid spotting numbers is the extent of my Chinese knowledge![attachmentid=10508]
Guest Rick Research Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Many thanks, Lingqi!! Your translation is much appreciated! So, now we have a specific place and date and reason CONFIRMED for a 1953 presentation to Admiral Pochupaylo. The green RUSSIAN language award paper on the same month and day but two years later in 1955 MIGHT be a "security" delay of that same 1953 medal OR it could be for a second medal...we need to find COMPLETE groups with the medals and documents to Soviet recipients fora better understanding of where and why these were awarded. Comrade Paz'inich's large pink "Mao" award document was obviously given someplace else for another reason.Has anybody got any other type of the large "Mao" award document? The cased "Chou" version all seem to be identical, but here we have seen at least two different varities of award document with facsimile "signature" of Chairman Mao.
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 This came in today. A group to Baktibay Zholmukanov with the following awards:Order of the Great Patriotic War 2nd Class Nr. 1.678.618Medal for Military Merit Nr. 2.459.158Medal for Military Merit without s/nMedal for the Capture of KoenigsbergMedal for the Capture of BerlinMedal for Victory over GermanyMedal 30 years of the Soviet Army & NavySino-Soviet Friendship Medal (Version 1951)The Medals are mounted on two Aluminium suspensions, probably everything re-mounted, when he received his Sino-Soviet Friendship Medal. The Medals were polished, as there are traces left, as you can see on the photos. All of the awards are documented and there is additionally a 1962 Military ID.First Medalbar:
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Second Medalbar with for this thread relevant Sino-Soviet Friendship Medal:
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Notice the rank-pip, which was used to be attached on the ribbon Edited March 15, 2006 by Gerd Becker
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 And finally the document for the SSFM. I will start another thread for this group and would appreciated some help with the translation of the docs. Page one:
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 And the last page:(I really hope, they are all in the right direction )
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 So that you won?t hurt your necks, here is, what is written by hand in the document:
Guest Rick Research Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 VERY nice Gerd! Yet ANOTHER specific individual citation type... the year on back is preprinted February 1951, but the space for the day is left blank: [attachmentid=30891]His name is given as Zholmukanov, Boris on the second page.The "? 7.1.74" is something about "per Avers denied inconsistent" and may be nothing but a random scribble. I make no sense of it.
Gerd Becker Posted March 15, 2006 Posted March 15, 2006 Thank you, Rick. I like it too very much. The Medals were proudly worn and show a lot of patina. It talks to you....I guess, there were a lot of variations for this document. Let?s hunt for different ones GerdPS: Will post the other thread tonight or tomorrow latest.
Guest Rick Research Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Here's a new personalized variant in today, with a solid plexiglas cover over the rigid Soviet style ribbon mount:The wearer or his next of kin went to some effort to scratch off the final digit in the year. Apparently even the back side of his own suit was not supposed to admit to having been there during the Korean War!Inverting the color appears to show the shadow of an obliterated "3" there. The ribbon star appears to have been laboriously etched into the solid reverse of the thick plastic and then painted to resemble the original metal star.A LOT of work here for a secretive former "Not There" Almost WW3 veteran.
ilja559 Posted August 18, 2007 Posted August 18, 2007 Today has received a medal with the document. Whether such medal with this document could be given whether or not?
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