Mike H Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Rick and all,I saw this beautiful ribbon bar in an old collector's home last weekend. Might buy it if the guy finally decides to. I know Rick can really narrow these things down and would appreciate it very much if you could identify everything for me and let me know.All the best for Christmas!Mike Heuer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 That's fake. Double HOH3X (weirdly incorrect non-gold color-- cast fake devices?)... fantasy Z?hhringen Lion "bow."Too bad, because the Bavarian one cropped off beneath it almost certainly IS identifiable if the double blues are Wehrmaacht long services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I am sorry to say the bar is most probably a fake for the following reasons:1. What is the bow on the baden Lion award (green ribbon)2. The first three ribbons are EK2, HOH3X, RAO4X or KO4X. They were given out for service in China or SWA. There is no China or SWA ribbon on the bar.3. There is also no Centennial medal on the bar.I would not buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 Wonderful info, guys. The guy will be really depressed as it is his favorite ribbon bar and he wanted a fortune for it.Glad to be a member here!My best,Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Sure looks like a classic 1990s Ohio All Brass Parts Fraud-- hand snipped brass backing, brass pin, and nasty hand cut catch that will look like:I recognize the classic overstitching of the backing, visible from the front. Black light should make the Memel glow electric blue. The eagles are probably PAINTED-- he had an endless supply of odd chalky-gray ones, but no original gilt ones. The oakleaves device on the Z?hringen ribbon is probably original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted December 25, 2007 Author Share Posted December 25, 2007 Rick,Didn't have a chance to take a photo of the rear -- thanks for the reminder on the catch. That has been a clue for me for many years -- thanks to you.I will provide a photo of the ribbon bar right below this one -- just have to crop it out of the photo of the box of bars.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted December 25, 2007 Author Share Posted December 25, 2007 Rick,Here is the ribbon bar right below the one above ... you said this might be identifiable.Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccj Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Rick,Here is the ribbon bar right below the one above ... you said this might be identifiable.MikeThe second bar is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Mike-- I don't turn anybody up at this point, so despite the Wehrmacht 25s, what this suggests is somebody who was in continuous service but in the Landespolizei and not the Reichsheer under the Weimar Republic.SHOULD be traceable, but we have not advanced enough in sorting out non-Prussians...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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