Rosenberg Posted January 5, 2008 Share Posted January 5, 2008 Here is my latest addition-a nice airgunner.Came cased,but unfortunately only in a Fliegersch?tze case.To my understanding these badges by Juncker were bolt-removed.Anyone with a similar piece to establish whether it was factory or field removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 the reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg Posted January 5, 2008 Author Share Posted January 5, 2008 some shots of the claws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J Temple-West Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hi, R.Firstly, if we look at the ?Juncker? RO/AG series, we?ll get a feeling for the production timeline.Top left: 1st pattern wreath/1st pattern eagle.Top right: 1st pattern wreath/2nd pattern eagle.Bottom left: 2nd pattern wreath/3rd pattern eagleBottom right: 2nd pattern wreath/4th pattern eagle. If we look at the production timeline of the RO/AG we can place your badge (2nd pattern wreath/3rd pattern eagle) as being produced around 1938/39. These 2nd pattern wreath/3rd pattern eagle types would have been issued until the new dies for Juncker?s zinc series (2nd pattern wreath/4th pattern eagle) came out, suggesting that the odds are that your badge had most likely already left the factory, been issued and was modified by either a jeweller or in-field after the order ?No.1698? (22nd June 1942) was published instituting the AG/FE badge and stating that those who held the RO/AG badge, were air gunners, should have the bolts removed to distinguish them from radio operators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Temple-West Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 This comparison shot shows Juncker?s 2nd pattern wreath/4th pattern eagle RO/AG (plated zinc) next to the same badge with what I believe to be a factory modified (bolts removed) AG/FE badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenberg Posted January 6, 2008 Author Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) Thanks for this detailed explaination!!! I just saw the date and it supports your timeline! Edited January 6, 2008 by Rosenberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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