Bryan Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 What is this for a Soviet tunic? From which years? Is it good or bad? What should I ask for close-up pictures except the collar and the buttons? Thanks for your help, I really know nothing in that area.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 It looks like this M1943 Kitel is indeed piped pale blue for airforce. They went to an open lapels, huge padded shoulders "zoot suit" in 1949, so it would date from before that. Buttons from that period bear no dates, so combined with the 6 sided Technical Engineer Lt Col boards, I would say circa 1947-49, but the tunic itself could date 1943-49.
Lapa Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 What is this for a Soviet tunic? From which years? Is it good or bad? What should I ask for close-up pictures except the collar and the buttons? Thanks for your help, I really know nothing in that area. Bryan,It is a nice M43 service jacket. As Rick indicated, no dates on buttons. I would nevertheless expand the range for using of 6-sided boards to 1945 to 1949.There is little risk with these jackets as you can't "upgrade" them much more than by changing boards to a higher rank.Marc
Bryan Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Thank you for your help gentlemen! What would be the going price for a Kitel like this? Thanks in advance!
Lapa Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Thank you for your help gentlemen! What would be the going price for a Kitel like this? Thanks in advance! Bryan,By itself without pants or cap, somewhere around 100 euro. It is a service jacket, not a parade one...Marc Edited March 5, 2008 by Lapa
Bryan Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks Marc! So it doesn't seem a very good deal. He sells it for $275 including the medals.
Lapa Posted March 6, 2008 Posted March 6, 2008 Thanks Marc! So it doesn't seem a very good deal. He sells it for $275 including the medals. Bryan,It is up to you to decide... The medals, of course, add a bit of value, but all in all, this will not be the deal of the century IMHO.Marc
Bryan Posted April 5, 2008 Author Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) Ok, so I got it cheaper than what the guy was asking for. I only took the Red Star with the tunic, because this was a "put together" group. Do you guys have a picture of a cap that would go with this tunic? Edited April 5, 2008 by Bryan
meffert Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 This color blue piping may make it an engineering branch of the NKVD (the "engineer" device for Air Force is a propeller/piston combo) in which case you would want a blue topped NKVD cap to go with it. I have this tunic's twin, here compared with a standard army engineer tunic.
Lapa Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 This color blue piping may make it an engineering branch of the NKVD (the "engineer" device for Air Force is a propeller/piston combo) in which case you would want a blue topped NKVD cap to go with it. I have this tunic's twin, here compared with a standard army engineer tunic. Jeff,That is, provided the piping on the jacket is royal blue, not light blue.Marc
meffert Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Jeff,That is, provided the piping on the jacket is royal blue, not light blue.MarcLooks royal blue to me.
Lapa Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 Looks royal blue to me. Jeff,I've been fooled a few times with pictures in the past, so let's wait for Bryan to tell us what color it really is.Marc
SKY MARSHAL Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) to Bryan,An emblem on the shoulder-straps of lieutenant colonel consisting of the french key and hammer the is an emblem?military-technical composition of all births of troops and services. Order of NKO of the USSR №33 on March, 10, 1936. Edited April 5, 2008 by SKY MARSHAL
meffert Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 The hammer with adjustable spanner actually was designated by USSR PCD Order #33 March 10, 1936 for technical persons in all branches and corps.
SKY MARSHAL Posted April 5, 2008 Posted April 5, 2008 The hammer with adjustable spanner actually was designated by USSR PCD Order #33 March 10, 1936 for technical persons in all branches and corps.Many thanks, you are right, has found in my electronic book.
Bryan Posted April 6, 2008 Author Posted April 6, 2008 Well I'm not sure if that is royal blue. I'm not very good with color names. I don't think it's an NKVD tunic, but if it is let say that is a plus. I'll try to make other pictures from the colar and the shoulder boards.
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