Guest Rick Research Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 WHAT in the name of Marx and all the Engels is Junior Lieutenant Ivan Otovich Ittse ( --> Итцe -- could that be the GERMAN "Eitze?") WEARING????? The reverse is undated, bearing only attestation from the colonel commanding 639th Artillery Regiment.Ittse's Kitel bears tabs that are piped in the same color as the main body of the tab with lighter piping around the collar andaround his massive chest pocket flaps !!!!!!! The scruffy bits that look like something was pinned over his pockets WAS something that had been pinned over his pockets, and not a flaw in the photograph's finish. It almost looks like he was wearing a ribbon bar-- before there WERE Soviet ribbon bars!His buttons appear to bear the Soviet Seal-- rather difficult to make out enlarged because of the pebbled surface, but ??? the wreathed hammer-and-sickled globe such as found on Generals' tunics from 1940 on? What on earth WAS he, before called into the army???????????????????????????????????
Ed_Haynes Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 Come now, Rick. This must be a fake. It doesn't match what the regulations say or any uniforms in The Major Annointed Collections . . . .
Guest Rick Research Posted March 8, 2008 Posted March 8, 2008 All goes to show that there are stranger things under heaven and earth, Khoratio...probably Corps of Commissionaires at the Lyubyanka. I just can't imagine getting away with piped pocket flaps... yowzers!!!!!!!!!
Guest Rick Research Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Hmmmm... could this be a LATVIAN tunic, under the Soviet occupation circa 1940/41--with new collar tabs added?Dim memories have revived of a much faked SS collar tab that had 3 stars and flaming "comet" rays-- could THAT be what is on the buttons, from pre-Soviet days?
Sergey Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Hmmmm... could this be a LATVIAN tunic, under the Soviet occupation circa 1940/41--with new collar tabs added?Dim memories have revived of a much faked SS collar tab that had 3 stars and flaming "comet" rays-- could THAT be what is on the buttons, from pre-Soviet days?Yes it is very similar to the truth, I think as.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 Yes-- confirmed "3 star comet" button design is LATVIAN-- see matching collar patch from "the other side""--http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtop...st&p=246946Comrade Fancy Pockets is wearing a LATVIAN police tunic, stripped of his Republican awards, with Soviet collar rank as a Militia Junior Lieutenant.
Guest Rick Research Posted March 9, 2008 Posted March 9, 2008 And here is ANOTHER one with the same formerly independent Latvian Republic buttons and Soviet rank tabs, also pebbled finish which makes close-ups impossible to see the details through the surface bumps--Senior Lieutenant Arnold Yanovich Zarin is attested as belonging to the 195th Rifles regiment by its Colonel.TWO from one batch of show finds! (But he has Normal Pockets! )
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