bigjarofwasps Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Hi Guys,I`m toying with the idea of buying a K98, but before I part with my hard earned cash, I was hoping that any expert collectors out there could offer me some tips/advice, also how much should I look at paying?Gordon.
nesredep Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Hello!In Norway You must pay from 500? and up.All the bestNesredep
bigjarofwasps Posted March 19, 2008 Author Posted March 19, 2008 Cheers Nes, I`ve been offered a few for ?240 each, so I think thats roughly the same as you guys pay over there.
nesredep Posted March 19, 2008 Posted March 19, 2008 Hello!bigjarofwaspsYes the same,thanks for comment.All the best Nesredep
bigjarofwasps Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 Hi guys, I`ve been doing a little research into the markings on K98`s and thought it might be of interest to some & or a reference point...Code Manufacturer Production Years Available S/42 Mauser-Oberndorf 1936,1937 42 Mauser-Oberndorf 1938,1939, 1940 byf Mauser-Oberndorf 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944 S/243 Mauser-Berlin 1936, 1937 243 Mauser-Berlin 1938, 1939, 1940 ar Mauser-Berlin 1941, 1942, 1943 S/237 Berlin-Luebecker 1938 237 Berlin-Luebecker 1938, 1939, 1940 duv Berlin-Luebecker 1941, 1942 337 Gustloff Werke 1940 bcd Gustloff Werke 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944 Code Manufacturer Production Years Available 660 Steyr, Austria 1940 bnz Steyr, Austria 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944 S/147 J.P. Sauer & Sohn 1936, 1937 147 J.P. Sauer & Sohn 1938, 1939, 1940 ce J.P. Sauer & Sohn 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944 dot Brno, Czechoslovakia 1943, 1944 S/27 ERMA 1936, 1937 27 ERMA 1938, 1939, 1940 ax Feinmechanishe Erfurt 1940, 1941 dou Waffenwerke Bruenn 1942, 1943, 1944 bsw Berlin-Suhler-Waffen 1937, 1938, 1939
bigjarofwasps Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/uniforms_f...8k/k98index.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabiner_98k
bigjarofwasps Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 Dates, Makers, and Codes :In 1934 only two manufacturers where assigned to produce the K98k. These were the Mauser plant at Obendorf, and the firm of J.P. Sauer & Sohn at Suhl. Mauser, Obendorf was the only manufacturer to produce the K98 from 1934-1945. Each year later, other makers were added to produce the K98k, while some makers where dropped due to production demands or interests in producing other weapons, such as machine guns, machine pistols, or other small arms that were needed. By 1943 there were at least 7 factories that were producers of the rifle. Each makers code, dates, and proof markings for each year are listed below.1934: Mauser, Obendorf- S/42K J.P Sauer, Suhl- S/147K 1935:Mauser, Obendorf- S/42G J.P Sauer- S/147G ERMA- S/27G Mauser, Borsigwalde- S/243G 1936: Mauser, Obendorf- S/42 above date 1936 J. P. Sauer- S/147 above date 1936 ERMA- S/27 above date 1936 Mauser, Bosigwalde- S/243 above date 1936 Berlin-Lubecker- S/237 above date 1936 1937:Mauser, Obendorf- S/42, 1937 J. P. Sauer- S/147, 1937 ERMA- S/27, 1937 Mauser, Borsigwalde- S/243, 1937 Berlin-Lubecker- S/237, 1937 Berlin-Suhler-Waffen (BSW)- BSW, date 1937 1938: Mauser, Obendorf- S/42 1938, and also "42" 1938 J. P. Sauer- S/147 1938, and also "147" 1938 ERMA- S/27, 1938, and also "27" 1938 Mauser, Borsigwalde- S/243 1938, and also "243" 1938 Berlin-Lubecker- S/237 1938, and also "237" 1938 BSW- BSW 1938 1939: Mauser, Obendorf- "42" 1939 J. P. Sauer- "147" 1939 and also no date or code! ERMA- "27" 1939 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "243" 1939 Berlin-Lubecker- "237" 1939 BSW- BSW 1939, and also combined with Gustloffwerke for "337" 1939 Steyr- Daimler, Steyr- "660" 1939 1940: Mauser, Obendorf- "42" 1940 J. P. Sauer- "147" 1940 ERMA- "27" 1940, and also "ax" 1940 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "243" 1940 Berlin-Lubecker- "237" 1940, and also "duv" 40 date. Gustloffwerke- "337" 1940 Steyr- "660" 1940, and also "bnz" 40 date. 1941: Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 41. J. P. Sauer- "ce" 41 ERMA- "ax" 41 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 41 Berlin-Lubecker- "duv" 41 Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 41 Steyr- "bnz" 41 1942: Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 42 J.P. Sauer- "ce" 42 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 42 Berlin-Lubecker- "duv" 42 Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 42 Steyr- "bnz" 42 Waffen Werke Brunn, Bystrica- "dou" 42 1943: Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 43 J. P. Sauer- "ce" 43 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 43 Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 43 Steyr- "bnz" 43 Waffen Werke Brunn, Bystrica- "dou" 43 Waffen Werke Brunn, Brunn- "dot" 43 1944: Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 44 J. P. Sauer- "ce" 44 Mauser, Borsigwalde- "ar" 44 Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 4 Steyr- "bnz" 44 or "bnz" 4 * Waffen Werke, Brunn, Bystrica- "dou" 44 * Waffen Werke, Brunn, Brunn- "dot" 1944 * 1945: Mauser, Obendorf- "byf" 45 * /** Mauser, Obendorf- "svw" 45 */ ** Mauser, Obendorf- "svw" MB ** Gustloffwerke- "bcd" 45 * Steyr- "bnz" 45 * Waffen Werke Brunn, Bystrica- "dou" 45 * Waffen Werke Brunn, Brunn- "swp" 45 * *- Later (higher) serial numbers were issued as Kriegsmodells. **- Kriegsmodells had rough unfinished stocks and no butt plate. Some years may have dual maker codes and/or dual dates marked on receiver
bigjarofwasps Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 This site just about covers everything!!!http://mauser98k.internetdsl.pl/indexen.html
bigjarofwasps Posted March 23, 2008 Author Posted March 23, 2008 Can anyone tell me what the diestamps all mean?
nesredep Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/uniforms_f...8k/k98index.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabiner_98kHello!Thank You for the good refferens.All the best Nesredep
nesredep Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Hello!Here is also a good referens book.All the best Nesredep
david wilkinson Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 hello have you had a look at ryton arms web page.he had some very nice examples.the price about ?230.he picked them upfrom russia.a few years ago.hope this helps. jdw
bigjarofwasps Posted March 25, 2008 Author Posted March 25, 2008 hello have you had a look at ryton arms web page.he had some very nice examples.the price about ?230.he picked them upfrom russia.a few years ago.hope this helps. jdwCheers Dave
bigjarofwasps Posted March 26, 2008 Author Posted March 26, 2008 Bought my first Mauser today, a 1940 example. If only it could speak.
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