Bryan Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Have you ever seen other pictures like this one with awards drawn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 What's on the back?I can't imagine a personnel file photo airbrushed like this so maybe it is a posthumous private photo.The Pogoni look airbrushed too.His face is much too young and his rank rather low to have been the holder of a 1938 "Jubilee" Medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Rick, I do not have the scan from the back, because the picture is not mine, but here are other pictures from the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Rick Research Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I've never seen so many personal photos, but then we don't GET family groups, we get the discards from file cabinets at offices that threw things away.I can't read the newspaper-- too small and fuzzy. But it seems to indicate that he was indeed in uniform from 1918. There is something about his having been in the ChON in the early 1920s--direct counterpart of the Chinese Cultural Revolution "Red Guards"-- punk kids strutting around beating people up and terrorizing the "masses" for the Party: seizing crops and other wonderful activities. Nothing like pubescents with guns convinced that they're smarter and better than all previous human evolution and willing to kill unarmed people to show how much "better" they were. So maybe he was as underaage as his WW2 photos make him look. He was, no surprise, a Commissar from his pre-war collar patch rank. I can't see anyplace that indicates when he was actually born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaruski Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 He also appears to have air force wings on some patches but not on others. The 'coloured' photo looks very much like a border guard cap! Also the furazhka insignia would be wrong for VVS. Perhaps he was some type of political troubleshooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 ...His face is much too young and his rank rather low to have been the holder of a 1938 "Jubilee" Medal. Rick,What do you mean by that? He wears Lieutenant-Colonel boards. Is that too low in your opinion to have served long enough to receive the 20 Years of RKKA medal?Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Marc-- that was posted immediately after the first photo, before any of the others. I assumed he was a FLYER from his boards--only the photos added later revealed he was a Commissar.I have a group photo from 1941 showing a supply officer who was only a Senior Lieutenant with the 1938.So I didn't mean only senior officers got it-- but that a "decorated FLYER" with that seniority, I would have expected to be a higher rank, after so many senior commanders were executed 1937/38 and promotions improved for the survivors. He still only looks like he was 30 during the war. He must have had a baby face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapa Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 ...He still only looks like he was 30 during the war. He must have had a baby face! Rick,The Soviets were definitely the precursors of PhotoShop Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 You think his face is airbrushed too? It's very well done. Maybe that is because these were his personal, private photos and not the usual "get it over with" personnel file ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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