scottplen Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 its seems good to me but not sure ? all medals seem correct ! no glow on ribbons or threads ! is it a correct 1870 or a swap out 1914 bar ? all ribbons seem to have same age ! he is asking $1100.00 is that to much or right in ball park????He is holding it for me till I think about it???WHAT DO YOU THINK????? I sold off alot of bars and now want to built back collection but onlytrying to buy A1 items !! the dealer does not have many imperial medals mostly surplus military items and seems not to know what state or any thing just iron cross!
scottplen Posted April 24, 2008 Author Posted April 24, 2008 back Also what would be a good price for this bar????
HeikoGrusdat Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 a close up of the Mecklenburg 1870 cross would help - I don`t like it from what I see now...
scottplen Posted April 24, 2008 Author Posted April 24, 2008 helloI will have to see if he will email me close up or mind me going over and getting picture
Guest Rick Research Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Hook back medal bars with felt backings generally date from circa 1890s on.This is almost certainly a 1930s bar for a WW1 veteran which has been retrofitted with 1870 awards.Hook backs are ALWAYS a problem, since everything on them is detachable at any time by anybody.
HeikoGrusdat Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 because of the needle system I would not say that it is a 1930s bar.... looks like the massive systems from around 1900....................... but the ribbons look a bit too new for 1870 pieces, the backing looks like 1920 and again - the Mecklenburg cross doesn`t make me happy.... iron cross is too dark for good statements.my personal opinion....I would be careful
scottplen Posted April 24, 2008 Author Posted April 24, 2008 Hook back medal bars with felt backings generally date from circa 1890s on.This is almost certainly a 1930s bar for a WW1 veteran which has been retrofitted with 1870 awards.Hook backs are ALWAYS a problem, since everything on them is detachable at any time by anybody.hello I had a feeling about that ! thought maybe a pre 1895 because of no kaiser medal of campain bars or 25 yr oakleaf on iron cross .But think it is still worth getting if i can get price down? other pieces seem good and seems like a nice bar!now i have some more info what do you think i should offer him for it ??? depending on if they are good pieces?thanks scott
VtwinVince Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Scott, I have an almost identical bar, but with the Oakleaves and a clasp on the KDM, and it has a Prussian long service. Your bar looks okay to me, but the photos aren't the greatest. I think the price is fair if the pieces are genuine.
scottplen Posted April 25, 2008 Author Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) closeup of medals Edited April 25, 2008 by scottplen
VtwinVince Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 On the twelve o'clock arm on the reverse of the Mecklenburg cross, at the top, is that a scratch or a die flaw or a casting mark?
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 (edited) Highlighted from original picture EK 1870 ®Kevin in Deva. Edited April 25, 2008 by Kev in Deva
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture EK 1870 (F)Kevin in Deva
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture MKLBURG Cross 1870 (F)Kevin in Deva.
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture MKLBURG Cross 1870 ®Note Cut along top of arm, under the ribbon Ose.Kevin in Deva.
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture 15 YR Service Cross. (f)Kevin in Deva
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture 15 YR Service Cross. ®Kevin in Deva
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture. Ribbon front:-Kevin in Deva
Kev in Deva Posted April 25, 2008 Posted April 25, 2008 Highlighted from original picture. Ribbon bar Rear.Kevin in Deva.
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