Austria-Hungary Cross

[ilja559]

I cant find the information about this cross

[ilja559]

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[Alex K]

It's

Royal Hungarian order of Saint Stephan, 1914-18, perhaps others could elaborate

regards

Alex

edit

Good old Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Sain...phen_of_Hungary

Edited May 12, 2008 by Alex K

[hunyadi]

Ilja - you wont find information about this cross as its a fantasy piece. The crown device is from a Order of St Istvan, but probably from one of the recent fakes produced in Austria. The central medalion is from a Hungarian Order of The Holy Crown and the red enameled cross may be from a Order of St Istvan - but it does not match. The Order of St Istvan should be enameled in green. I hope you did not buy this item!

[Guest Rick Research]

The ribbon is from a Bulgarian WW1 Commemorative Medal for combatants.

[ilja559]

Charles,thank for the information. I have bought this medal, but I think problems will not return her back.

[Alex K]

Did I get it THAT wrong!

[Elmar Lang]

Hello,

this St.Stephen's-like cross is not exactly a fantasy order, but it's the Knight's Cross of the "Ungarisches adeliges Kapitel-Kreuz", or "Chapter's Cross of the Hungarian Nobility"; an association of Hungarian nobles, founded in Luzern (Switzerland), on 19. September 1960.

The decoration was awarded depending on the title's level; in other words, the Knight's Cross was intended to the lower grades of nobility, patrices with coat-of-arms and "Vit?z".

The small "defect" we see on the left side of the crown suspension, is an evidence that the piece was produced by Rothe & Neffe, Vienna. The plain reverse medallion was engraved with a progressive number.

The obverse medallion, although not enamelled, resembles that of the "Magyar Erdemrend", or Hungarian Merit Order, from the Horthy period, 1922-1944, not that of the Order of the Sacred Crown.

The ribbon is also correct.

More info about this private decoration can be found on Prochazka, II Edition, Vol. 4, pages 258-259.

Best wishes,

Enzo

Edited May 13, 2008 by Elmar Lang

[Alex K]

Hello,

this St.Stephen's-like cross is not exactly a fantasy order, but it's the Knight's Cross of the "Ungarisches adeliges Kapitel-Kreuz", or "Chapter's Cross of the Hungarian Nobility"; an association of Hungarian nobles, founded in Luzern (Switzerland), on 19. September 1960.

The decoration was awarded depending on the title's level; in other words, the Knight's Cross was intended to the lower grades of nobility, patrices with coat-of-arms and "Vit?z".

The small "defect" we see on the left side of the crown suspension, is an evidence that the piece was produced by Rothe & Neffe, Vienna. The plain reverse medallion was engraved with a progressive number.

The obverse medallion, although not enamelled, resembles that of the "Magyar Erdemrend", or Hungarian Merit Order, from the Horthy period, 1922-1944, not that of the Order of the Sacred Crown.

The ribbon is also correct.

More info about this private decoration can be found on Prochazka, II Edition, Vol. 4, pages 258-259.

Best wishes,

Enzo

so I was only slightly, seriously wrong

[hunyadi]

Enzo -

Very interesting - never heard about this order before and have never seen one either. Can you scan the article for us? If they produced such items I would wonder what the other grades look like.

[ilja559]

Enzo,thanks for information.

Can you scan the article for us?

[hipnos]

Hello,

this St.Stephen's-like cross is not exactly a fantasy order, but it's the Knight's Cross of the "Ungarisches adeliges Kapitel-Kreuz", or "Chapter's Cross of the Hungarian Nobility"; an association of Hungarian nobles, founded in Luzern (Switzerland), on 19. September 1960.

The decoration was awarded depending on the title's level; in other words, the Knight's Cross was intended to the lower grades of nobility, patrices with coat-of-arms and "Vit?z".

The small "defect" we see on the left side of the crown suspension, is an evidence that the piece was produced by Rothe & Neffe, Vienna. The plain reverse medallion was engraved with a progressive number.

The obverse medallion, although not enamelled, resembles that of the "Magyar Erdemrend", or Hungarian Merit Order, from the Horthy period, 1922-1944, not that of the Order of the Sacred Crown.

The ribbon is also correct.

More info about this private decoration can be found on Prochazka, II Edition, Vol. 4, pages 258-259.

Best wishes,

Enzo

Splendid information, Thanks Enzo

miguel