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[Laurence Strong]

Hi Paul

I scaned it flanked by 2 medical SB's to show the diff in blue. But then upon further reaserch I find that these are for a supply officer, and their attachment is "Mercury's Staff" and is listed in the same waffenfarbe as medical staff. So the diff in color is probably a manufacture thing.

Mercury delivered his messages with miraculous speed because he wore winged sandals. He also wore a broad-brimmed hat and carried a winged staff. Mercury's staff had snakes curled around it to protect him in his travels.

Some more info. In January 1944 the Army instituted a new career for officers and certain officials entitled TSD. This new career used a blue waffenfarbe and did away with secondary colors as worn by officials in other careers. On 1 May 1944 all high grade career Administrative officials were transfered to the TSD.

Edited October 30, 2005 by Laurence Strong

[Guest Rick Research]

Just to confuse things here are NAVY boards for a Korvettenkapit?n (V) from before the war-- this is what their Paymaster Corps turned into circa 1935/36. Same device, years earlier, and here the dark blue is for the naval uniform color, not a Waffenfarbe.

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If I am interpreting the 1944 TSD change correctly, what happened was that the army and air force FOLLOWED the navy and switched over their supply and pay corps ONLY to match THIS navy "Verwaltungs" use of insignia. Other branches of army and air force administration (construction, education, pharmaceutical, and so on) seem not to have been affected.

(Confusing things even more -- while in the navy this insignia for officers indicated Paymasters, for ratings it indicated COOKS! After the war the DDR's CUSTOMS service used this same Mercury Staff insignia! While in America, this insignia and NOT the snake up a branch is commonly used for MEDICAL services on ambulances and so on! )

[Paul R]

Just to confuse things here are NAVY boards for a Korvettenkapit?n (V) from before the war-- this is what their Paymaster Corps turned into circa 1935/36. Same device, years earlier, and here the dark blue is for the naval uniform color, not a Waffenfarbe.

If I am interpreting the 1944 TSD change correctly, what happened was that the army and air force FOLLOWED the navy and switched over their supply and pay corps ONLY to match THIS navy "Verwaltungs" use of insignia. Other branches of army and air force administration (construction, education, pharmaceutical, and so on) seem not to have been affected.

(Confusing things even more -- while in the navy this insignia for officers indicated Paymasters, for ratings it indicated COOKS! After the war the DDR's CUSTOMS service used this same Mercury Staff insignia! While in America, this insignia and NOT the snake up a branch is commonly used for MEDICAL services on ambulances and so on! )

I have never seen those boards until Lawence posted them. They must be pretty rare indeed!

BTW, that General's Board is a real beauty!!

Edited October 30, 2005 by Paul Reck

[Laurence Strong]

Thanks Rick

[Laurence Strong]

Some new items, first an Artillery Hauptman for Arty Regt 37

[Laurence Strong]

A real salty Cavalry Obrest

[Laurence Strong]

A Jager Obrest Leutnant which looks like it was removed from a tunic

[Laurence Strong]

IR 87, I have the Wiemar era one coming.

[Laurence Strong]

Infantry Unterfeldwebel with a field promotion?

[Laurence Strong]

Beamten Administrative Elevated High Grade official, it looks like copper or brass wire used in it.

the obs

Edited January 14, 2006 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

The reverse

[Laurence Strong]

Administartive Elevated Medium grade official, what do the different waffenfarbe colors in the middle of the tabs signify? Both buckram backings have a waxy finish to them.

[Laurence Strong]

The reverse. Thats all for today, thanks for looking and comments and opinions always welcome

[Laurence Strong]

Got this today, and your opinions would be welcome. Sr Beamten collar tab obverse

[Laurence Strong]

the reverse. I have not seen a setup like this before, what are your opinions?

[Paul R]

I think that the tabs are good... just a different manner of manufacturing!

Your insignia collection is growing by leaps and bounds! Very nice stuff!!

Paul

[Laurence Strong]

Thanks Paul. I was a little concerned with the reverse. I have found a generals board, but thats gonna have to wait for a while.

[jcsanche]

WOW

Lawrence, Paul and Rick, I had never seen so many, top notch cloth insignia.

Regards

Juan

[Laurence Strong]

Thank Juan. . You will find more in the Luft, KM, and Political sections.

[Laurence Strong]

Reserve Gebrigsjager Regt 100 Leutnant

Edited February 23, 2006 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

The reverse

[herrgeezer]

Nice collection Laurence. I really like the salty look of some of these pieces.

[Laurence Strong]

Thanks heergeezer

these came with the large bunch of Luft shoulder boards I got, however the Feldpost was part of the Wehrmacht Beamten so I am showing them here.

Feldpostbot with the rank of Felwebel with pale-yellow Nebenfabren

Edited October 4, 2006 by Laurence Strong

[Laurence Strong]

Feldpostassistent with the rank of Oberfelwebel. They are missing the FP's there are holes on the rear for where they were once.

[Laurence Strong]

Rank insignia for a Feldoberpostinspektor with the rank of Hauptmann