Heer SS KC Winner

[Chris Boonzaier]

Does anyone have a photo of the Handschar KC winner Kinz?

Thanks

Chris

[Dave Danner]

Him?

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php...&highlight=kinz

[Chris Boonzaier]

I think the poster had made an error in the identification. Helmut Kinz was in a recon unit of the handschar, got the KC in May 1945, it cannot be the same man.

best

Chris

[Ingsoc]

Helmut Kinz

[BandenKampfer]

Was he transferred over to the SS, I cant picture a Wehrmacht officer leading SS men.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Was he transferred over to the SS, I cant picture a Wehrmacht officer leading SS men.

You mean like Paul hausser?

[Bernhard H.Holst]

Hello:

a more complete picture of H. Kinz in the K.C.recipients of the Waffen-SS and the police by J.Schneider indicates that he served in the SS-Polizei Division at a time that a somewhat mixed uniform was worn i.e. police uniform but with the SS sleeve eagle. In his case he wears the SS Runen on the tunic indicating him to be a full member of the SS.

BTW: the Scherzer reference book on K.C.Recipients questions the bestowal of the K.C. as there is no official documentation available in the German archives.

Bernhard H. Holst

[Bernhard H.Holst]

hello readers:

in addition to earlier posts it may be of interest that a number of officers on active duty with the army during the war were put on detached service with the Waffen-SS (kommandiert) Example is the K.C. recipient Hptm.d.R.Otto Toll KIA while on duty with the 12.SS-Pz.Div. "Hitler Jugend" as co.cmdr in the engineer battalion. Others transferred . Such cases also took place in connection with the L.W. and K.M.

A much circulated photo of high ranking generals ( F.M.von Rundstedt and others) visiting the above mentioned division with a view of saluting officers in the two then prevailing methods of military salutes in the German armed forces.

Bernhard H. Holst