leigh kitchen Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The 13th Hussars were originally "Richard Munden?s Regiment of Dragoons", a heavy dragoon regiment. By 1751 they were known as "The 13th Regiment of Dragoons". By 1783 they had converted from heavy to light cavalry. Initially Light Dragoons formed part of a cavalry regiment, in a scouting & reconnaisance role, but whole regiments were raised as their value became apparent. In 1861 the regiment was renamed "The 13th Hussars".In 1922 the 13th amalgamated with the 18th Royal Hussars (Queen Mary's Own) to form "The 13th/18th Royal Hussars (Queen Mary's Own)". The 13th/18th amalgamated in 1992 with the 15th/19th King?s Hussars to form "The Light Dragoons".This Edwardian card shows a Trooper of the 13th Hussars in Marching Order, & the Regimental Sergeant Major in Review Order: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 A Trumpeter in Review Order & a Trooper & Signalling Sergeant in Drill Order.As the 13th were a "non - royal" regiment, the Trumpeter wears green cords instead of the red, blue & yellow twisted cords of a "royal" regimentHis crossed trumpets arm badge of appointment (Clothing Warrant 1865) is worn on a backing of the regimental facing colour & is worn with the bells of the trumpets down.In some units it was worn the other way up, & is known to have been worn both ways within the same unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 The Kettle Drummer of the 13th Hussars.The drum banners & shabraque bear the monogram of King Edward VII, although the "Victorian Crown" is worn rather than the "King's Crown".The artist has coloured the drum banners a distinct shade of buff, which is incorrect - although the faings of the 13th were officially "buff", the regiment chose to interpret this as "white": Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 (edited) Busby bag, one day I'll get the whole busby.The round section lays on top of the fur busby, the bag hanging down the right side: Edited October 25, 2008 by leigh kitchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stuart Bates Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 here is my 13th Hussars pillbox forage cap. It is attributed to a Sergeant Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 9, 2009 Share Posted May 9, 2009 The pillbox cap came with a cardboard container which is inscribed with Serg. Morris, 13th Huss, Ballincollig.The 13th served in Ballincollig, Ireland 1891-94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 How is the busby-bag held in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Well I am not prepared to tear my busbies apart but from looking at Leigh's busby bag I would say it is stitched to the top. No doubt Leigh will clarify this.Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 Fantastic - both the pictures and the knowledge that goes with them. Makes Sunday seem a lot brighter!Mervyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 10, 2009 Share Posted May 10, 2009 (edited) Leigh certainly has some lovely pictures and lots of them from what I can gather! Matched only by his depth of knowledge but enough of the accolades .Whenever I return to GMIC after an absence there is always a topic or two that I can contribute to, which is why it is my favourite forum!Stuart Edited May 10, 2009 by Stuart Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh kitchen Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Thanks Stuart, but I'm not so sure about depth of knowledge, especially with people like yourself & many others who know a lot, rather than a little about a lot.I had'nt given much thought to how the busby bag affixed to the headgear, I thought that it was liable to "clamp" somewhere with fixings under the inside rim of the top of the busby.I've never had a close look at one of these.Here's a Victorian / Edwardian "scrap" of a 13th Hussars, about 5" tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Bates Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Leigh,I had a quick look at one of my busbies but would not apply too much pressure on the top trying to establish how the bag was fixed, but I think I felt stitching. The interior top is fully lined with no evidence of how the bag was fixed.Does yours have stitch holes?Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 an old thread but a recent acquisition, rough rider (remount trainer, riding instructor) sergeant of the 13th hussars, c.1890-95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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