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If at first you don't succeed, try try TRY again over and over for years. This was the last ribbon bar--from the Evil Ricky Collection :cheers: -- I ever discussed with my late Imperial guru George Seymour:

I was hunting, fruitlessly, in the 1914 Prussian and Imperial Navy Rank Lists, and George found what looked like a match back in the 1890s for a very strange character named Dr. Kohlstock-- expert on African cattle diseases (who died in China of something nasty during the Boxer Rebellion).

But we were wrong. Subsequent excavations by the Guild Of Research Gnomes in vast unsuspected subterranean archives has uncovered an entire SPECIES of military officials (Beamten) who were not shown in the regular annual Rank Lists

EVER !!! :Cat-Scratch::speechless1:

These literally invisible uniformed civilians had their very own SEGREGATED Rank Lists, for themselves alone.

Daniel has been slaving away at a copy of the :jumping: 1917 that Glenn found-- and which has made an accurate identification possible after YEARS.

The awards on this Old Style early wartime ribbon bar are

1) Iron Cross 2nd Class on "white black" noncombatant ribbon (3,000 during the war, 10,000 afterwards)

2) Red Eagle Order 4th Class (awarded 27.01.1913 per the final published Prussian Orders List-- which also reveals his missing first name)

3) Crown Order 4th Class (10.10.1910)

4) Saxe-Weimar "GSF3b" Order of the White Falcon-Knight 2nd (pre-1913)

5) 1897 Wilhelm I Centenary Medal

as worn before 1917 (Beamten Rangliste of that year reveals his birth year 1869) by

Eduard Trzeciok, Geheimer Expedierende Sekret?r und Kalkulator in the Geheimer Milit?r Kabinett, Berlin.

His 1918 Prussian Court & State entry reveals that he had also recieved one of those :speechless: Saxon War Effort Crosses 1917/18:

Ironic, isn't it, that these INVISIBLE military officials continued to be listed in the :jumping::jumping: informative wartime civil service "rank Lists" that Paul found.

Many pieces of the puzzle, slowly, patiently accumulated....

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Yup. Every year the MILITARY ignored them... they appeared in the CIVIL SERVICE Lists! :banger: 1913:

Looking at some of these amazing racks, there would be only ONE tip off that we were not looking at the medal bar of some aristocratic Guards officer:

no long service XXV for all those KO3s. Beamten didn't get long service crosses AS full time military officials until 1920.

The three Orders (every combination of other possible classes has been eliminated), NO Long Service ribbon, and "white black" Iron Cross ribbon were what sent me off seeking an Official to begin with.

Then, since he was employed in the very heart of the Second Reich's military establishment, one has simply to flip through the online Berlin City Directories for his home address (1918) =

Still listed as "Hofrat" in 1925. There was a "Staatsbeamter DR. Eduard Trzeciok" from 1929 to the final wartime edition of 1943-- a VERY late doctorate, or had he died and that was Junior?

Well, some invisibility has to linger just to make things difficult! :speechless1: :catjava:

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DOKTOR (at 60 !) Eduard Trzeciok "scientific consultant" as we'd call him now, rather than back in 1929--

Note DOUBLE entry in the 1929 city directory above-- WITH and WITHOUT first name, at the same address in Berlin-Steglitz. :rolleyes:

Dr. Eduard Trzeciok is referred to as a "Staatsbeamter" in 1934 (65) and "Dr. E. Trzeciok" was listed as a "Referent" in 1943-- BACK in zV wartime military uniform in his 70s???? :speechless1::speechless1:

Mysteries for some other year, perhaps. :rolleyes:

The moral of the story is

Never Give Up

because the Guild of Research Gnomes never does! :ninja:

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Eduard Trzeciok, Geheimer Expedierende Sekret?r und Kalkulator in the Geheimer Milit?r Kabinett, Berlin.

Seems it took a Geheimlich manoever to unearth someone who was "Geheim" ? :rolleyes:

Btw, any ideas on what his -real- job description was with all of those "Geheimer"s in there? What would an African cattle disease specialist be doing in Asia? Rinderpest was a problem in Africa late in the 1800's, but I don't think there was any major cattle problems in Asia at that time.

Les

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Budget gnomes, squirreling away over unit price for boot hobnails and tinned jam. Hardly seems glamorous enough to have showered down such glittery enamelled largesse, does it?

I doubt very much the Royal Corps Of Budget Human-Computers ever goose-stepped shoulder to shoulder down the Unter den Linden as throngs cheered! :cheeky:

Poor old Dr. Kohlstock (photo Daniel located reveals other things not matching) was a sort of all-purpose Icky Cruds specialist, dispatched wherever contagion lurked-- and one got him in the end.

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