Noor Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 Hi,Just picked up one interesting 1914 Star. Is there more information available about the owner/unit/service? Biggest head case for me is the unit what I just don't understand.Also what would be the value because I mainly don't collect Bristih medals and I like to let it go - just to be honest with you guys and let you know about that.Kind Regards,NoorAs far I know the 1914 stars had been awarded 378,00 times (a wordsworth colour guide MEDALS, published in Englalnd 1993 )text on the reverse:9269PIE S.E.HOBBS.R.BERKS.R.
Great Dane Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 My guess is that it is "PTE" (Private) instead of PIE and that R.BERKS.R is Royal Berkshire Rifles?/Mike
Noor Posted May 11, 2009 Author Posted May 11, 2009 Thank you Great Dane!I wasn't sure about the first part.... private of course and regiment as well!!!! Thank you :jumping:
JPL Posted May 11, 2009 Posted May 11, 2009 My guess is that it is "PTE" (Private) instead of PIE and that R.BERKS.R is Royal Berkshire Rifles?/MikeHi Noor,I did a quick search for his MIC in the online National Archives website and found the following:Hobbs, Sidney ECorps Regiment No RankRoyal Berkshire Regiment 9269 PrivateHe also served in the Hampshire Regiment as follows:Hampshire Regiment 23977 PrivateHere is the link to the info:http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1Jean-Paul
leigh kitchen Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 Yes, that looks like him, Medal Index Card shows: Sidney E Hobbs,Pte 9269 3rd R Berks Regt later Pte 23977 2nd Hants Regt.Entered theatre of war on 5/11/14, entitled to 1914 Star, War Medal, Victory Meda, Slver War Badge LIst C/670/1A note on the back of the MIC - "Mr S.E.Hobbs makes app for decorations 15/4/20.
leigh kitchen Posted May 12, 2009 Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Looks like these are his "pension records" - Sidney Edmund Hobbs, joined the R. Berks Regt in 1913 at age 17, number originally is 9729 or similar, deleted & replaced by number 23977, service towards engagement starting on 174/1/13.He was a casual labourer from Stepney.Recruit training with the 3rd Berks, posted to 2nd Hants 13/9/14, posted to Depot 28/1/15, posted to 3rd Berks? again on 23/4/15, transferred 1st Garrison Bn Hants Regt 19/4/16, posted to 2nd Hants on.He'd been mobilized on 5/8/14, & he was discharged no longer physically fit for War Service on 30/9/18, conduct "very good".Served 5 years & 260 days.Served in France 5/11/14 - 22/1/15 & 20/5/16 - 17/3/18a:SWB was because he was gassed, he was awarded punishments 3 times, for havng a dirty rifle & being dirty personally 2/5/13, quittng his fatigue without permission 1/5/14 & whilst on Active Service quitting his post & duty 2/9/14 (although on "Active Service" he was still based in England at the time, Southampton area by the look of it). Edited May 12, 2009 by leigh kitchen
Noor Posted May 13, 2009 Author Posted May 13, 2009 Thank you guys! Excellent work and information. :beer:
peter monahan Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 Nice work, gentlemen!Poor bugger! Joined the Army as a 'causal labourer' (read 'unemployed' or 'semi-employed'), had a fairly ordinary wartime career and got discharged 'unfit' as a result of being gassed. I wonder if he 'quit fatigues' because he couldn't breath well enough and got gigged by an unsympathetic NCO.I also wonder how he made out as a civilian with no particular skills and a half a set of lungs! Perhaps he applied for the gongs in 1920 and wore the War Badge in an attempt to improve his odds of getting a job. I know that's what I'd have done! No great wonder that socialism made such strides in the UK after the war!
leigh kitchen Posted May 14, 2009 Posted May 14, 2009 "Homes Fit For Heroes" was the slogan was'nt it?
Graham Stewart Posted May 15, 2009 Posted May 15, 2009 Just a quicky here. If he began his recruit training in 1913 with the 3rd Bn, Royal Berkshire Regt, then he wasn't a regular soldier, he would have been a "Special Reservist". Regular soldiers enlisting at this period of time undertook recruit training at the Regimental Depot, as training for the "Reserve & Extra Reserve Battalions" of line regiments, which in the main where either the 3rd or 4th Bn's, was an annual event.
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