Mervyn Mitton Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 South Africa used to have quite a complex network of police forces. The South African Police became the national force in 1913, and running alongside, was the South African Railways police - they had the same powers - carried rifles and bayonets on occasion, and would be called out on street duty in emergencies. They wore a khaki uniform and this cap. They were disbanded - I think in the 1970's - perhaps someone could give the date? Additional to these were the town or, metro police that many large towns and cities had - and, there were also a number of traffic police forces - whose duty seemed to be to issue tickets to increase small town revenues !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arthur R Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 (edited) They were disbanded - I think in the 1970's - perhaps someone could give the date?1 October 1986. Edited May 16, 2009 by Arthur R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 16, 2009 Share Posted May 16, 2009 They had a rather cool camo uniform.Unfortunately I no longer have any so I cannot post it.bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mervyn Mitton Posted May 17, 2009 Author Share Posted May 17, 2009 Thankyou for that date - I was not in SA between 1960 and 1988 , so don't have a rememberance for dates like that. I do have memories from - I think - 1958 -when a large demonstration took place in Durban and ended up in front of the old prison, that was in the centre of Town. There were no SAP available - they were trying to stop another march coming over the Berea - and to defend the prison 30 railway police lined up in front of the gates. They warned the demonstrators - some 10,000 strong of severe action if they didn't lay down their arms and disperse. I was standing at the back of the demo with a friend who worked for the Daily News - and I remember an old Sgt. Maj. of the Railway Police coming round and saying ' now lads, don't stand here, if we open fire you'll get hurt'. I was only 21 then, so we quickly 'moved on'. After the demonstrators had gone - three x 3ton lorries were needed to collect all the weapons left on the ground. I've kicked myself for over 50 years , that I didn't get in there to collect some of the old Zulu weaponry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrigade Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2009/post-3034-1242571993.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_05_2009/post-3034-1242571965.jpgOne of the Railway Police Pith helmets in my collection, badge makes it about the same period as the cap posted by Mervyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrigade Posted May 17, 2009 Share Posted May 17, 2009 The later version of the Pith Helmet with a badge variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrigade Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 CLOSE UP PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BADGE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur R Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 CLOSE UP PHOTOGRAPH OF THE BADGEThe 1957-86 version of the badge, with the Voortrekker Monument in place of the crown on top. This design, with the crown, had been introduced around 1955. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabrigade Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks Arthur,Any more details on the previous helmet I posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur R Posted May 18, 2009 Share Posted May 18, 2009 Thanks Arthur,Any more details on the previous helmet I posted?Nothing concrete. There's a photo in Alexander/Barron/Bateman's book on SA medals which shows two railways policemen wearing white helmets in 1945, but no badges are visible. I'd guess the coat of arms badge may be pre-WWII, perhaps dating from the reorganisation of the force in 1934. The badge has 'SAS' rather than 'ZAS' which suggests post-1926. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BokJock Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 On 16/05/2009 at 16:59, Mervyn Mitton said: South Africa used to have quite a complex network of police forces. The South African Police became the national force in 1913, and running alongside, was the South African Railways police - they had the same powers - carried rifles and bayonets on occasion, and would be called out on street duty in emergencies. They wore a khaki uniform and this cap. They were disbanded - I think in the 1970's - perhaps someone could give the date? Additional to these were the town or, metro police that many large towns and cities had - and, there were also a number of traffic police forces - whose duty seemed to be to issue tickets to increase small town revenues !! The South African Railways Police was amalgamated into the South African Police and all their assets transferred to the SAP as of 1 October 1986. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHERHEITSDIENTS Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hi I wanted to up this old topic to know what about this South Afrikan pith helmet that I own from a lot of years...I would like to know period and see if possible period pics on wear... Thanks In advance Fernando More shots... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SICHERHEITSDIENTS Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Nobody??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Fernando, I believe that all that needs to be said about this helmet has been said on the WAF. Regards, Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Hi SICHERHEITSDIENTS, I only saw you picture on the SA Railways Police helmet now My parents got married in 1954 and my dad worn his helmet during their wedding Unfortunately not the best picture, but better than nothing He lost all his items through the years I only have his appointment certificate to Detective Sergeant in 1966 Regards Archie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Hi SICHERHEITSDIENTS, I will look for a better picture today Regards Archie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Found this different pictures Will share more a bit later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 More pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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