Ulsterman Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Well, I saw something really, really neat today. Actually, a whole bunch of things and after I picked my jaw up off the floor, bought myself a little book on the first Carlist war.But i digress......I seek information regarding Lt dL. Prof. Gregory, famed theologian, Professor and biblical literary scholar who was born in Philadelphia in @ 1847, saw Lincoln give 'a house divided speech' once, and went on to become a leading SPD cadre and Chair of the University of Leipzig theology department.He enlisted AT AGE 68 (!) as a war volunteer in 1914, got promoted to Vitzfeldwebel by Jan. 1915 and was given his LtdL. patent in late 1915 (it's in the Leipzig newspaper) and was killed in April, 1917 after falling off his horse and being hit by shrapnel.Can anyone tell me when he got his Saxon Albrecht order 3x?Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 SA3bX Lt dL René Gregory LIR 106-- 27 January 1917. ( ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 ah ha! thanks!He got the EK2 and Sax. FA medal ( BRONZE ?) too.He died a citizen of the USA. His daughter lived in Cambridge, Mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Caspar René Gregory * November 6, 1846 in Philadelphia † April 9, 1917 in a field hospital in Neuchâtel sur Aisne, (according to his German Wikipedia bio, he took the Saxon citizenship in 1881) Portrait 1894 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Ren%C3%A9_Gregory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Ren%C3%A9_Gregory http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Ren%C3%A9_Gregory http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Ren%C3%A9_Gregory</a Thanks for bringing him to our attention :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Yup-that's the man. He must have been a dual citizen as well. His death was reported as 'famous American killed fighting for the Kaiser' in US newspapers.That is his later photo @ 1890. By 1914 he was all white with a goatee.Apparently there is a monument next to his old house in Leipzig.He was one of the 6 most famous and important theologians of the 20th century and a brilliant linguist. His handwriting is phenominal. I have read part of his 4 volume work on the gospels. His literary analysis is the basis of part of the plot "Angels and Demons".Anyway, stay tuned. My favorite local bookseller has his effects via his g. granddaughter. The photos are fascinating.Can anyone tell me where the L106 was during the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIR Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 ... Can anyone tell me where the L106 was during the war?Hi,the LIR106 was a unit from the 47. Landwehr-Division and the 47. gemischte Landwehr-Brigade.Here the Kriegschronik from the 47. LD: http://www.1914-18.info/erster-weltkrieg.p...ndwehr-DivisionAnd thanks for this very interesting story/man! Best regards, Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Anyone know were Lt. Casper Rene Gregory is buried?? I know his wife move back to the US in 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Now this is what I have found out about Professor Caspar Rene Gregory, at least some of his education. I working on some other things about him as I get the time. 1864 A.B. University of Pennsylvania, USA 1867 AM . University of Pennsylvania, USA 12 April 1869 Professor Gregory licensed to preach, Presbyterian Church. 1870 Princeton Theological Seminary, USA, Unknown Degree still doing research 1870 licentiate of the Presbytery of Philadelphia 1873, Gregory decided to continue his studies at University of Leipzig 1876 Ph.D. Leipzig University of Leipzig 1881 Becomes a citizen of Saxony 1885 He declined the chair of New Testament Greek at Johns Hopkins University, USA, to which he was elected 29 September 1886 Gregory Marries Lucy Watson Thayer daughter of Dr. JOSEPH HENRY THAYER D.D., professor of sacred literature at Harvard University, USA 1889 Associate [full] Professor at Leipzig University 1891 Full honorary professor at Leipzig University March 1893 Elected to Phi Beta Kappa, Delta, University of Pennsylvania, USA 1893 Dr Theology, Leipzig University 1894 LL.D, Honorary Degree, University of Pennsylvania, USA 13 June 1901 D.D., University of Glasgow, 23 October 1901 Honorary Degree, LL.D. from Yale University USA ?? ?? ?? Dr. Jur or Juris Doctor, School Unknown at present, suspect Harvard, USA. His knowledge of New Testament manuscript was said to be unsurpassed. Besides his work, he is remembered by a memorial stone with a portrait in relief in Leipzig on Naunhofer Straße in front of the new Nickolai School in the Stötteritz part of the city, as well as a small square nearby. Does any one know exactly where Professor Gregory is buried? I know his wife returned to the USA and took a job as the head of Whitman Hall at Radcliffe College in 1920. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 The Arringtons Bookshop of Wells, Maine has the grouping and it included a shot of his grave as I recall. I think he was buried "im Feld". The Arringtons also presently has THE BEST German soldiers in China photo album I have ever seen(1907-1910): pictures so crisp and clear as to be almost HD. If I were a rich man.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Thanks for your quick reply. A friend on another site told me today that Gregory is buried in the cemetery of Asfeld la Ville, Block 7 , Grave 88. Asfeld is a few kilometres southeast of Villers devant le Thour. See http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/Kriegsopfer-René-Caspar-Gregory_Soldaten_0_13382.html. On another note the book on the first Carlist war, does it have any reference to George Augustus Frederick Ruxton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 SA3bX Lt dL René Gregory LIR 106-- 27 January 1917. ( ) Can you provide a citation for this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Thanks for your quick reply. A friend on another site told me today that Gregory is buried in the cemetery of Asfeld la Ville, Block 7 , Grave 88. Asfeld is a few kilometres southeast of Villers devant le Thour. The German War Grave site (Volksbund Deutsche Kriegsgräberfürsorge e.V.) confirms that location. Todesdatum: 09.04.1917 Rene Gaspar Gregory ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Asfeld (Frankreich) . Endgrablage: Block 7 Grab 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 Coincidentally, there's a running thread on Pickelhaubes.com about Gregory. Joe Robinson posted the picture below of Gregory in his uniform... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) Nice portrait! Here are some details to the life and death of Gregory from the Volksbund site: http://www.volksbund.de/kgs/stadt.asp?stadt=609 "Unter den aus Villers-devant-les-Tours (ca. 7 Kilometer nördlich Asfeld) Umgebetteten, befand sich auch der älteste gefallene Kriegsfreiwillige des deutschen Heeres, der Leutnant d.R. René Caspar Gregory, der im Alter von 71 Jahren als Leiter eines Gräber-Verwaltungs-Kommandos nahe Neufchateau an der Aisne bei der Bergung von Gefallenen durch eine Granate sein Leben verlor. (Block 7 - Grab 88). 1846 in den USA geboren kam er 1873 nach Deutschland, um hier seine Studien zu vollenden. Er promovierte und habilitierte in Leipzig und wurde 1891 zum ordentlichen Honorarprofessor berufen, nachdem er 1881 die sächsische Staatsbürgerschaft erworben hatte. Seine Lebensarbeit war die Entdeckung, Erforschung und Klassifizierung neutestamentlicher Handschriften. Zu diesem Zweck unternahm er weite Forschungsreisen, wobei ihm die Kenntnis von 16 modernen Sprachen besonders hilfreich war. Am 11. August 1914 meldete er sich als Kriegsfreiwilliger." Edited October 10, 2009 by Naxos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Interesting that his biography is on googlebooks too AND that he served in the Union army briefly during the civil war in a militia unit at UPenn.. Just imagine HIS medal bar had he lived to say, 1930! I expect he'd have put his US civil war campaign medal at the end of the bar, in front of the Hungarian commemorative, but behind the Kyfserbund medal. Thanks for the link Mike. George will be VERY happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Sb: Hi there! Just spoke to George and he said he could scan some of the pics. The Saxon Alb. Order x notation is from the bound volume published by Roth- I have to wonder if the SAR1 notation is to a relative though-how many Saxon Gregorys can there have been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Casper Rene Gregory's father, of Henry Duval Gregory, was born in 1819, Pillidelphia PA, His grandganfather, Casper Ramsay Gregorie, Born Port au Prince and his father Rene Gregorie who was French. Thanks for the reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 George wrote me today and told me he sold the collection. So I can not publish the photos as I do not have the new buyers permission. Sorry. I can say one of the photo's did show Lt. Gregory with the Iron Cross 2nd and the SA3bX ribbons in his button hole. SB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yeah-it was wonderful to fondle it all. Oh to be rich! George has amazing stuff wander into his shop almost monthly. The Tsingtao photo album he has now is stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 yes, what I saw, 10 or so photos, were quite professional. Ah, yes, to be flush. Would have a barn full of the stuff. Ha! Anyway thanks for all of your help. I almost have CRG's genealogy. Bye the way do you know when he got his EK2 and Sax. FA medal ( BRONZE ?) dates?? Promotion times?? SB2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted October 23, 2009 Author Share Posted October 23, 2009 see post above. Don't know about the EK and FAM. I can't remember if the docs were in the box or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb3797 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 "Ulsterman wrote on Oct 16 "I have to wonder if the SAR1 notation is to a relative though-how many Saxon Gregorys can there have been" I just found a quote from another site "In 1908 Gregory had already received the Albrecht Order first class for his scientific achievements" Can this be true? And where can I find the date??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'd try the Ordnungsalmanach of 1908. Paul C. has them on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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