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    Wow! Great Livret! I have only the documents to individual awards and always am in awe of those who have a Livret, as these really tell a story. What I don't quite understand is why "MAI Securitate" is crossed out along with the Specialitatea Militara number 235/a??? Was this guy originally Securitate, and then transferred to another branch? Very nice piece!:jumping:

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    I also find it interesting that the photo shows the Colonel in (a) civilian attire and (b) at apparently advanced age. I don't know this for sure, but maybe this is a Livret given upon retirement (as you said), more or less like when an American member of the armed forces retires, his standard I.D. card is taken and he is issued a "retiree" I.D. (so he can still use some of the military facilities). But I'm just speculating here...

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    Well, you are actually right; he' a little too jolly, too ! :jumping:

    But now that you've drawn attention to it, the issue date (next to his picture) 18.05.1964, so he was 49; and retired in 30.04.1964.

    ....which should place the strike over the "MAI Securitate" at a later phase, after retirement; so you can definitely say that he was an agent.

    WHICH explains why he`s in civilian: paranoid "Secu" never released any unrequired info.

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    It all begins to fall into place... thanks, Alex! Our own agents here in the States are somewhat paranoid in the same way.:ninja:

    Oh yeah, watch the "jolly" stuff... it's much easier to put on than take off after a certain age.:whistle:

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    A three space Internal Ministry ribbon bar. The awards covered are (from left) the Order for Service to Socialist Country-3rd Class, the Medal for Service to Socialist Country-Gold and the 20th Anniversary of the Romanian Armed Forces Medal. This bar could be for anyone employed in the Internal Ministry... Securitate, Security Troops, Militie (Police)... what is interesting about it is that there are no medals or orders indicating time in service (Military Merit). Also, these particular awards are from an interesting period in Romanian Communist history- a transitional period that appears to run from 1963 to 1968- where many changes took place including, but certainly not limited to, the name of the country.

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    I don`t know if this would necessarily be a Securitate bar, but since it is not mine, I thought I should put it here, just to have a record of it.

    I've seen the ribbon of the last piece before, I know it`s for the police, but I do not know what the medal looks like. Anyone ?

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    Also the bar in the fourth position is an RPR Securitate Order "Pentru servicii deosebite aduse în apãrarea orânduirii sociale i de stat" (Order for Distinguished Services in Defense of the Social Order and the Country) 3rd Class.

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    Also no real military awards here- civilian awards and commemorative medals. Definitely not Securitate/Internal Ministry, but may be a civilian ribbon bar (probably Party member). As Kevin pointed out, two 25th Anniversary of the Liberation of the Country medals is kind of weird.

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    I`ve been looking at similar pins, the design is identical, but the two vertical bars the stand aside the soldier determine the national flag colours.

    So you've got that, and some "enamel" , so to speak, over it, that almost doubles the thickness; it's almost like plastic.

    Which is why I`ve never been tempted to get one, until I saw this variation. :jumping:

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