saschaw Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Recently there was a small discussion on a German forums regarding when Imperial Russian award were and when were not worn by German receipients. In World War 1 awards were usually not worn. After the peace of Brest-Litowsk things may have changed and the awards were worn again. However, in post WW1-Germany and the so-called "Third Reich" they w e r e worn. The actual question is: was there a change in 1941, in rules or in facts? Was it common still to wear Imperial(!) Russian awards while fighting the Russians? I am not sure and have nothing on those final four years of the great slaughter. At least I can well imagine they were worn - as they were never given by the Bolshevik (the actual enemy in WW2) but in good old imperial days - or even after WW1 by the "whites", then for fighting the Bolshevik, as they were now in 1941-45... Anyone knows, or has information on it? PS: I know I'm a bit off-topic here, but am to shy to go to the WW2 zinky guys or to the Russian section. Once imperial, ever imperial. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 General practice anywhere is not to wear the awards of enemy powers while hostilities are occurring. Some wearers chose never to wear the awards of former enemy nations again. Others wore everything they had again once a war was over.I don't think there was any particular regulation for this-- anywhere-- so much as general custom in all countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 Hmm okay, thank you. But was "Russia" an enemy in 1914/17 and in 1941/45... ? Just the same? I assume this again a personal choice of the wearer - or non-wearer... :speechless: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I've seen Tsarist awards being worn by Germans during the Second War. Different regimes. But I don't have any ribbon bars or photos in my collection with any like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNickel Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Hi,here are the wards from the ranklist 1914 - L?hr Dr. Pr GOA 5. D (+ 11. D) J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Velde Dr. Pr GOA LwInsp Berlin J Russ RussSt 2 x 06 05 1914 Laub Pr Oberkriegsgerichtsrat VI. AK J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Esche Pr OL dLwaD Kriegsgerichtsrat VI. AK J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 M?ller Dr. Pr GA XIV. AK J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Weber Dr. Pr GA XVII. AK J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Streubel Pr OL dLwaD Wirkl. Geh. Kriegsrat + Intendant XVIII. AK J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Bredan Pr L dRaD Intendanturrat XVIII. AK J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Woyrsch Pr GdI GenAdj K?nig von Preu?en J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914 Reinhardt Dr. Pr GOA Kommandantur Berlin J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 H?lker Dr. Pr SA 1. GarRzuF (+ IR 26 + 19.09.1921) J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 H?lker Dr. Pr SA 1. GarRzuF (+ IR 26 + 19.09.1921) J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914Freiherr von Scheffer-Boyadel Pr GdI als GarGR 1 J Russ RussA 2 mBr 06 05 1914 Krause Dr. Pr OSA GarGR 1 J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Scholz Dr. Pr SA GarGR 1 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Bergemann Dr. Pr SA GarGR 1 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Meinhardt Dr. Pr OA GarGR 1 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Paris Pr OZM GarGR 1 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Albrecht Pr OZM GarGR 1 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Pospiech Pr ZM GarGR 1 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Go?ler Pr GdI als GarGR 2 J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Schwartzkoppen Pr GdI als GarGR 2 J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Arnim Pr GdI als 4. GarRzuF J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914von Arnim Pr GdI als 4. GarRzuF J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914von Go?ler Pr GdI als 3. GarRzuF J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Go?ler Pr GdI als 3. GarRzuF J Russ RussWA 06 05 1914Graf Finck von Finckenstein Pr GdI als GarJ?gB J Russ RussSt 2 mKr+x 06 05 1914von Zingler Pr GdI als IR 9 (+ 20.05.1920) J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Blume Pr GdI Chef IR 13 J Russ RussA 2 mBr 06 05 1914Freiherr von und zu Egloffstein Pr GdI als IR 26 J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914Freiherr von und zu Egloffstein Pr GdI als IR 26 J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Seebeck Pr GdI Chef IR 31 J Russ RussSt 2 x 06 05 1914 Krahn Dr. Pr SA IR 56 J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914von Leszczynski Pr GdI Chef IR 60 J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914von Leszczynski Pr GdI Chef IR 60 J Russ RussA 2 x 06 05 1914von Leszczynski Pr GdI Chef IR 60 J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Lehmann Dr. Pr OSA IR 61 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Kettner Dr. Pr OSA IR 65 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Kettner Dr. Pr OSA IR 65 J Russ RussSt 2 x 06 05 1914von Boehn Pr GdI als IR 76 J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Seifert Pr ZM IR 81 J Russ RusssME aBA 06 05 1914Freiherr von Bissing Pr GdK als RGarduC J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Wiesinger Dr. Pr OSA IR 116 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Schultze Dr. Pr SA IR 128 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Cammert Dr. Pr OSA IR 153 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Massow Pr GdK als DR 2 J Russ RussAN 06 05 1914Graf von Wartensleben Pr GdK als DR 12 J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914Graf von Wartensleben Pr GdK als DR 12 J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914Herzog zu Mecklenburg Paul Friedrich Pr GdK als DR 17 J Russ RussAd 06 05 1914Herzog zu Mecklenburg Paul Friedrich Pr GdK als DR 17 J Russ RussG 4 06 05 1914 Saxe Pr OZM DR 24 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Podbielski Pr GL als HR 3 J Russ RussAN 06 05 1914 Dietrich Pr ZM UR 12 (+ 09.05.1917) J Russ RussA 5 06 05 1914von Pfuel Pr GdK als UR 13 J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Floeck Dr. Pr OSA FAR 10 J Russ RussA 3 x 06 05 1914 M?nter Dr. Pr SA FAR 10 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Prinz von Battenberg Alexander Hess GdA als FAR 25 J Russ RussAd 06 05 1914 Ohlsen Dr. Pr OSA FAR 33 J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Zurbuch Dr. Pr SA TrainAbt 16 J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Stechow Dr. Pr OGA zD Kaiser-Wilhelm-Akademie J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Nordhoff Sa H dLwaD Geh. Kriegsrat + Intendanturrat mil. Institute J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Tobold Dr. Pr OSA GarK HauptSanDepot Berlin (+ 15.12.1925) J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Heycke Pr GarnVerwObInsp I. AK Goldap J Russ RussA 5 06 05 1914Graf von Oeynhausen Mar FK Mitglied Reichsmilit?rgericht J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Graf von Oeynhausen Mar FK Mitglied Reichsmilit?rgericht J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Landwehr Mar MarSZM MarInf J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Hoepfner Pr GdI als II. SeeB J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Kneisz Dr. Mar MarOSA III. SeeB J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Mann Mar MarOZM III. SeeB J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Freiherr von Bilfinger W?rtt GdI Generaladjutant J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914Freiherr von Bilfinger W?rtt GdI Generaladjutant J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914Freiherr von Reischach W?rtt GL General als J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914Freiherr von Reischach W?rtt GL General als J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914Graf von Zeppelin W?rtt GdK General als J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914Graf von Zeppelin W?rtt GdK General als J Russ RussA 2 mBr 06 05 1914Graf von Zeppelin W?rtt GdK General als J Russ RussW 3 06 05 1914Graf von Zeppelin W?rtt GdK General als J Russ RussWA 06 05 1914von Scharpf W?rtt GL Kriegsministerium J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914Freiherr Schott von Schottenstein W?rtt GdI als IR 119 J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 M?hlschlegel Dr. W?rtt OSA IR 121 J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Freiherr Varnb?ler von und zu Hemmingen W?rtt RM dLw LwBez Leonberg J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914 Weber Dr. W?rtt OSA dR LwBez Mergentheim J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Kr?ger W?rtt H dLw LwBez Reutlingen J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Schwarz W?rtt OL dLw LwBez Stuttgart II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Graf von Mirbach-Harff Pr OL dR RK?R 4 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Wahnschaffe Pr RM dR RDR 2 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Winterfeldt Pr RM dR RDR 2 + LwBez Prenzlau J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Bollert Pr RM dR RDR 4 + LwBez L?tzen J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Mutius Pr OL dR RDR 4 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Ritter von Marx Pr RM dR RDR 14 + LwBez H?chst J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Klencke Pr RM dR RDR 19 + LwBez Braunschweig I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Klencke Pr RM dR RDR 19 + LwBez Braunschweig I J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Bohlen und Halbach Pr RM dR RDR 21 + LwBez Karlsruhe J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914de la Croix Pr RM dR RDR 21 + LwBez Guben J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Bopp Pr RM dR RDR 24 + LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Riedesel Freiherr zu Eisenbach Pr RM dR RDR 24 + LwBez Braunsberg J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Zitzewitz Pr RM dR RHR 1 + LwBez Schlawe J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Borchardt Pr RM dR RHR 1 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Meyer Pr OL dR RHR 2 + LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RusssRM 06 05 1914von M?hlberg Pr M dR RHR 3 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914Graf von D?nhoff Pr M dR RHR 7 + LwBez K?nigsberg II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Graf von Plessen-Cronstern Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Neum?nster J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914Graf von Hohenthal und Bergen Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Meiningen J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Freiherr von Romberg Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Jauer J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Freiherr von Romberg Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Jauer J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914Freiherr von Entre?-F?rsteneck Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Wiesbaden J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Bre?ler Pr RM dR RHR 7 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Pr?chtel Pr OL dR RHR 15 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Ahlefeld Pr L dR RHR 16 + LwBez Schleswig J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Ebbinghaus Pr L dR RHR 16 + LwBez Cassel I J Russ RusssME aBSt 06 05 1914 Toeche-Mittler Pr RM dR RUR 3 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Freiherr von Wangenheim Pr RM dR RUR 6 + LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Hartmeyer Pr RM dR RUR 11 + LwBez Hamburg I J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Scheven Pr RM dR RUR 14 + LwBez Metz J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Hilger Pr M dR RUR 15 + LwBez Kattowitz J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Behr Pr H dR 1. RGarRzuF + LwBez Potsdam J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Haxthausen Pr H dR 2. RGarRzuF + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Haxthausen Pr H dR 2. RGarRzuF + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914Freiherr von L?dinghausen gen. Wolff Pr H dR 2. RGarRzuF + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Lettow-Vorbeck Pr H dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez Potsdam J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Lettow-Vorbeck Pr H dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez Potsdam J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Diezelsky Pr H dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez Stolp J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Bader Pr H dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Richter Pr H dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez Stralsund J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Weber Pr L dR RGarGR 1 + LwBez C?ln I J Russ RusssME aBSt 06 05 1914 Henninger Pr H dR RGarGR 2 + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Henninger Pr H dR RGarGR 2 + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Winter Pr H dR RGarFR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914Freiherr von L?tzow Pr H dR 5. RGarRzuF + LwBez Gera J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Peterson Pr H dR RGarGR 5 + LwBez K?nigsberg II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Rohrbeck Pr H dR RGarSB + LwBez K?nigsberg II J Russ RussSt 3 mSchl+x 06 05 1914 Bosberg Pr H dR RIR 10 + LwBez Potsdam J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Kriege Pr H dR RIR 15 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Hase Pr L dR RIR 20 + LwBez Potsdam J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 M?tzlitz Pr L dR RIR 24 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Westphalen Pr M dR RIR 31 + LwBez Hamburg II J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Westphalen Pr M dR RIR 31 + LwBez Hamburg II J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Koch Pr OL dR RIR 47 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Nitz Pr OL dR RIR 48 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Haertel Pr H dR RIR 62 + LwBez Berlin I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Wieland Pr OL dR RIR 64 + LwBez Oldenburg I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Wieland Pr OL dR RIR 64 + LwBez Oldenburg I J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Jacobi Pr H dR RIR 80 + LwBez H?chst J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Molsen Pr OL dR RIR 84 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Seeliger Pr H dR RIR 93 + LwBez Berlin III J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Reuter Pr H dR RIR 142 + LwBez Berlin III J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Neumann Oskar Pr L dR RIR 146 + LwBez Berlin II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Pogge Pr H dR RJ?gB 10 + LwBez Neustettin J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914von Sydow Pr OL dR RRGarduC + LwBez Dortmund II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Lehndorff Pr OL dR RRGarduC + LwBez K?nigsberg II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Jagow Pr M dR RGarK?R + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Br?ning Adolf Pr RM dR RGarK?R + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf Henckel von Donnersmarck Pr RM dR RGarK?R + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914Graf von Bassewitz Pr L dR RGarK?R + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Prittwitz und Gaffron Pr L dR RGarK?R + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Stumm Pr RM dR 1. RGarDR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914Freiherr Hugo von Spitzemberg Pr RM dR 2. RGarUR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914von Erckert Pr RM dR 2. RGarDR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914Freiherr von Eberstein Pr RM dR 2. RGarDR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Schwerin Friedrich Pr RM dR RK?R 2 + LwBez Swinem?nde J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914Freiherr von Maltzahn Helmuth Pr RM dR RK?R 2 + LwBez Prenzlau J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von R?nne Pr H dLw LwBez Allenstein J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Hellmann Pr M dLw LwBez Allenstein J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Hellmann Pr M dLw LwBez Allenstein J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Bohm Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin I J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Hey Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Cordes Pr OL dLw LwBez Berlin I J Russ RussA 3 x 06 05 1914 Reichel Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin III J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Riedel Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin III J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Kuntze Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Kirchner Dr. Pr GA dR LwBez Berlin V J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Kaul Pr OL dLw LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussSt 3 mSchl+x 06 05 1914 Ossig Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Ossig Pr H dLw LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Wehner Pr OL dLw LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Happel Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Happel Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Lauteschl?ger Pr OL dLw LwBez Darmstadt I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Neuber Pr H dLw LwBez Frankfurt/Main I J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Rehn Dr. Pr GA dLw LwBez Frankfurt/Main II J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Groedel Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Friedberg J Russ RussA 4 06 05 1914 Groedel Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Friedberg J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Freiherr L?w von und zu Steinfurth Pr L dLw LwBez Gie?en J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Koerner Pr OL dLw LwBez Gleiwitz J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Freiherr von Wangenheim Pr OL dLw LwBez Gotha J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Holthoff von Fa?mann Pr OL dLw LwBez Gotha J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Colmers Dr. Pr OA dLw LwBez Gotha J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Philippi Pr OL dLw LwBez Gumbinnen J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von Braunschweig Pr OL dLw LwBez Hamburg I J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Licht Pr H dLw LwBez Hamburg II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Licht Pr H dLw LwBez Hamburg II J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Krieg Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Jauer J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Karpa Dr. Pr OA dR LwBez Insterburg J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Paulcke Pr H dLw LwBez Karlsruhe J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Arendt Dr. Pr SA dR LwBez Kattowitz J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Kelpe Pr H dLw LwBez Kiel J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Fink Pr RM dLw LwBez Lauban J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Birnbaum Pr H dLw LwBez Minden J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Treichel Pr H dLw LwBez Neustettin J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Krieg Pr L dLw LwBez Oldenburg II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Redlin Pr OL dLw LwBez Spandau J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914von Strauch Pr OL dLw LwBez Weimar J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 He? Pr OL dLw LwBez Wiesbaden J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Andlaw Pr M dLw 1. GarLwR + LwBez Karlsruhe J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914von Windheim Pr OTL dLw 1. GarLwR + LwBez K?nigsberg I J Russ RussA 1 06 05 1914von Berg Pr H dLw 1. GarLwR + LwBez K?nigsberg I J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Oppen Pr L dLw 2. GarLwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Holthoff von Fa?mann Pr OL dLw 1. GarGLwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Freiherr Schenck zu Schweinsberg Pr H dLw 2. GarGLwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914von der Hagen Pr H dLw GarGLwR 5 + LwBez Ruppin J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Wallmann Pr H dLw GarJ?gLwR + LwBez Gumbinnen J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914 Hahn Pr H dLw GarJ?gLwR + LwBez Tilsit J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Wintzigerode Pr H dLw GarJ?gLwR + LwBez M?hlhausen/Th?r. J Russ RussSt 3 x 06 05 1914 Jacobi von Wangelin Pr H dLw GarJ?gLwR + LwBez Konitz J Russ RussSt 3 mSchl+x 06 05 1914 Waechter Pr H dLw GarSLwR + LwBez Ruppin J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von P?ckler Pr M dLw GarLwKav + LwBez Schweidnitz J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914Graf von P?ckler Pr M dLw GarLwKav + LwBez Schweidnitz J Russ RussSt 1 06 05 1914Graf von Hacke Pr L dLw GarLwKav + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914Graf von Bernstorff Pr H dLw 1. GarFALwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Schadow Pr H dLw 1. GarFALwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Brauchitsch Pr OL dLw 1. GarFALwR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Gr?nweller Pr M dLw GarFuALwR + LwBez L?beck J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914 Gr?nweller Pr M dLw GarFuALwR + LwBez L?beck J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914 Goetsch Pr H dR 1. RGarFAR + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussA 2 06 05 1914von Gehren Pr OL dR 1. RGarFAR + LwBez Goldap J Russ RussSt 2 06 05 1914von Bomsdorff Pr H dR RFAR 6 + LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Post Pr H dR RFAR 15 + LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Bender Pr OL dR RFAR 19 + LwBez Berlin VI J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Klo? Pr H dR RFAR 23 + LwBez Gnesen J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Klo? Pr H dR RFAR 23 + LwBez Gnesen J Russ RusssRM aBW 06 05 1914 Krug Pr H dR RFAR 37 + LwBez Gumbinnen J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Kautz Pr H dR RFA-Schie?schule + LwBez Kiel J Russ RussSt 2 x 06 05 1914 Kautz Pr H dR RFA-Schie?schule + LwBez Kiel J Russ RussSt 2a 06 05 1914 Karbaum Pr H dR RFuAR 7 + LwBez Celle J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Libbert Pr H dR RTeleB 2 + LwBez Hamburg II J Russ RussA 3 06 05 1914 Simon Pr RM dR RGarTrainAbt + LwBez Berlin IV J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Schlieckriede Pr OL dR RTrainAbt 17 + LwBez Danzig J Russ RussSt 3 06 05 1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 Thanks Rick, thanks Werner... :speechless1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Hmm okay, thank you. But was "Russia" an enemy in 1914/17 and in 1941/45... ? Just the same? I assume this again a personal choice of the wearer - or non-wearer... I met a mention that it was not authorised to carry Russian awards received for war with Germany. But it concerned the former citizens of Russian empire and that who served in army of Russian empire. At the same time we know, that Cossacks in Wehrmacht continued to carry imperial awards for war with Germany. Proceeding from it it is possible to assume, that there were no interdictions for citizens of Germany received Russian awards to 1914 and after Brest-Litovska. And with Germany such citizens of Germany receive imperial awards for war could not. I do not know as it is all it has turned out at me in English... :banger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Exactly as it turned out for the people who wore the awards... or did not! Feldwebel/Offizierstellvertreter Schneider is wearing a Medal for Zeal on the St. Stanislaus ribbon...with the profile of Nicholas II: There is no date on back but this convinces me it was taken DURING THE WAR also: he is wearing a XII Years Service Medal, not the XV or XXV Years Cross he would have earned once the war was over, at his rank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Slivin Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Exactly as it turned out for the people who wore the awards... or did not! Feldwebel/Offizierstellvertreter Schneider is wearing a Medal for Zeal on the St. Stanislaus ribbon...with the profile of Nicholas II: There is no date on back but this convinces me it was taken DURING THE WAR also: he is wearing a XII Years Service Medal, not the XV or XXV Years Cross he would have earned once the war was over, at his rank.Medal for Zeal it has been received after 1904 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Krause Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Actually,In WW2 it was forbidden to wear enemies awards. Everybody can read that in the "Doehle".In WW1 it was never forbidden. There was just an order of Willy the 2nd to remove enemies rulers monogramm cyphers from the shoulderboards of the regiments which they "owned" before WW1.Best regardsDaniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 Interresting points, Daniel. It was not banned in WW1, still very many did not wear their awards any more, we see this quite often. And I assume more often than still worn. I have no D?hle (yet), but there's still the point if Imperial Russia is just the same as post 1917 "Jewish-Bolshevik" Russia. I think it isn't, nazis definitelly thought the same, and in detail it might have been up to wearer's choice however. Thanks to all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Here is one small bar with the St.Anne ribbon in the end. Bar is from 30s. Looks like at least in this period some officers liked they old ex friends awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 There was just an order of Willy the 2nd to remove enemies rulers monogramm cyphers from the shoulderboards of the regiments which they "owned" before WW1.Old Style Medal-Ribbon bar from the Kaiser Alexander Garde-Grenadier Regiment Nr. 1, Berlin. Still mystery to me first Blue ribbon - Long Service??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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