EK 1939 EK2 Spange

[Kriztofer]

Hi Gents

Does anyone recognize this model of Spange? I'm about 90% sure that it's a good one BUT, I can't match up the talons from any listed on the forums & the wreath bothers me a little.

Any ideas guys.

Chris

[Jim R]

Hi Gents

Does anyone recognize this model of Spange? I'm about 90% sure that it's a good one BUT, I can't match up the talons from any listed on the forums & the wreath bothers me a little.

Any ideas guys.

Chris

Hi Chris

It is an L/18 Spange, but I don't like it as it is very soft on details. Can you see a maker's mark on the back? Or get a picture of the back? Jim

[Kriztofer]

Hi Jim

No chance of a reverse shot I'm afraid, the seller doesn't want to break the pins. Funny that you mention Mayer, the only vague comparison to the talons was on a 1st class Mayer Spange.

I share your view about it being a bit fuzzy, I thought it might have been the photos he sent me or wear. My concern is around the tips of the oak leaves where they overlap onto the next one, there is an unusual space?

Do you have an L/18 for comparison?

Chris

[ogfm]

Hi Chris,

your Spange is 100% Original from Mayer, the version with the veins.

Here is my old Spange from Mayer, without the veins.

[Kriztofer]

Thanks Oliver, that's just what I needed to see.

Chris

[Kriztofer]

I forgot to ask guys. Do I understand correctly that Mayer produced the 1st & 2nd class both with and without veins and that the without versions were intermediate models?

[Jim R]

Your spange looks like a cast copy of a Mayer, look at the feet and notice the lack of detail. Now look around the body and you will see what appears to be excess metal, plus the pitting in the medal itself.

Mayer made the following types:

EKI - Long veins, short viens and no viens

EKII - Veing and no veins.

Here is a picture of mine with viens.

Jim

[Jim R]

[Kriztofer]

I see what you mean Jim, but now I'm confused! Oliver's example exhibits the same characteristics as the one I posted i.e. talons and a small amount of material overflow.

Could this be wear/result of the flash or is there a known repro of the Mayer.

I understand that there are variations of most makes, could this be one of them also? I would really like to learn more about these pieces but the information available is scarce! It would be nice to have a database containing all the proven types in one convenient location.

Chris

[Kriztofer]

Thanks for the info so far, are there any more Spange collectors out there who could provide their examples or knowledge?

Chris

[gregM]

I am no expert on these at all but I do have a 2nd class L18 to compare against.

[Kriztofer]

Thanks Greg

After comparing your example as well I would say the one I posted is ok, based on the aging pattern, date & features. My concern was the wreath and talons but, the lack of detail could be from wear?

I see what appears to be some extra or overflow material around the edges which concerns me but, the area of the wreath where it's attached to the date is identical to the ones posted here. Could be the photo?

I'm still waiting for some better photos.

Thanks again guys for your help on this one.

Chris

[Kriztofer]

For ease of reference I've put the three examples together, hope you guys don't mind me using your pics for this :whistle: