Freiwillige Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 Could you please help to identify the following photos I have in my collection? No.1 Classic CDV without any dedication on the back.
Freiwillige Posted November 5, 2009 Author Posted November 5, 2009 No.2 No idea at all, may be some German shooting / hunting society? What about their awards?
Freiwillige Posted November 5, 2009 Author Posted November 5, 2009 No.3. Again, no description on the back...
Guest Rick Research Posted November 5, 2009 Posted November 5, 2009 From the dark velvet collar, the Deckoffizier in #s 4/5 was in engineering or a technical branch (torpedoes, mines, ordnance...)
Freiwillige Posted November 6, 2009 Author Posted November 6, 2009 Thank you, Rick! No.4 This photo is dated 1923 on the back. What does his "Z" arm badge stand for?
Freiwillige Posted November 8, 2009 Author Posted November 8, 2009 Any ideas regarding these photos? Please reply if you have any! I'm not able to identify them neither by myself nor by the help of my colleagues :banger:
army historian Posted November 23, 2009 Posted November 23, 2009 From the dark velvet collar, the Deckoffizier in #s 4/5 was in engineering or a technical branch (torpedoes, mines, ordnance...) I totally agree with Rick, The man is a Deckofficer and probably technical.
Freiwillige Posted November 23, 2009 Author Posted November 23, 2009 I totally agree with Rick, The man is a Deckofficer and probably technical. Thank you! Any ideas about the rest of the photos? Please help if you can!
Freiwillige Posted December 6, 2009 Author Posted December 6, 2009 Could anyone help me with the photos No.1, 2 and 4?
Freiwillige Posted December 24, 2009 Author Posted December 24, 2009 No.5 What can be said about this soldier? Decorations: EK-2, Turkish Eiserner Halbmond fuer Mannschaften and Verwundetenabzeichen im Schwarz. Can you please let me know the exact detachment that soldier served with? What those three horizontal stripes stand for?
oldlincolnian Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 Thank you, Rick! No.4 This photo is dated 1923 on the back. What does his "Z" arm badge stand for? The Zeppelin enamel badge has a near identical black/silver Z on it. Its conjecture but this could be a Zeppelin company crewman?
The Prussian Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 I can´t believe that photo with the "Z" is from 1923. Maybe dated, but that might be wrong. He wears a Bluse M15, that was not worn in the Reichswehr-era. The Z could stand for Zepellin or Zeughaus (material). Those patches could be worn in the 1st part after the war (1919 in the "vorläufige Reichswehr") But those patches were not official. If it is Zepellin, it must be an inofficial sign until 1918. The last photo is a post-war photo again. Those stripes were worn in that era, but the collar is not military. Police? Office?
Freiwillige Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Thank you very much for your help! As for the date written on the back (the scan of that fragment is attached here) you are right, it could be the date when the portrait was presented. The caption reads: "Zur frdl [freundlichen] Erinnerung von 15.Juli 1923". By the way could you please let me know what those stripes signified (Photo No.4)?
The Prussian Posted February 16, 2010 Posted February 16, 2010 I´m not quite sure, but the three stripes mean Vizefeldwebel (in the "Friedensheer" 1919) But the unusual numbers upon the collar stand for "Feld- und Forstbeamte". (forest-officers). Look at my three attachements. Two of them have the numbers too nd one wears the stripes.
Freiwillige Posted February 16, 2010 Author Posted February 16, 2010 Thank you for the info, Andy! But it seems stripes on your photo and those on mine are different (note their length). Anyway your hint on Forstbeamte is a avluable one, many thanks! As for that mysterious "Z" patch do you have any idea where I could get a photographic evidence of such patches worn by Zeughaus / Zeppelin personnel during the last phase of the Great War?
oldlincolnian Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 I have SEEN such an image some years ago on a forum of some sort when someone was asking about the ID of the Zeppelin company corporate badges.... the august answer was about how the corporate staff wore these military looking suits with big Z badges on the sleeve and a photo was offered which showed a couple of men in a balloon shed clearly wearing era style "uniforms" with Z badges.... The reason I didn't go further in my own description is that I do not recall which forum that was on or how to find it....but I know I saw it!
The Prussian Posted February 17, 2010 Posted February 17, 2010 Freiwillige, You are right abouzt the length of the stripes. I said, your picture is probably not military. I just wanted to show, that there were stripes upon the upper-sleeves in officer-branches. I think the three stripes are an equivalent rang to the military ranks. Sorry, I can´t say anything about the "Z". It was only a guess. But "Oldlincolnian" said something logical to that. If you´ll get further informations, please let us know!
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