KDVR Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Hello friends Opinion concerning its originality needed: weight: 40,25 g Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter BL Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Hi....sorry to say this one's a copy of the Deumer shield. Notice the gap between the wreath and the bottom of the crossbar where on originals the wreath sits at the bottom of the crossbar as below. Hope that helps.....Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter BL Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Here's an original to compare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hello! Interesting information. all the best Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm F Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Hi....sorry to say this one's a copy of the Deumer shield. Notice the gap between the wreath and the bottom of the crossbar where on originals the wreath sits at the bottom of the crossbar as below. Hope that helps.....Peter Just to make sure I understand, is the photo you marked with the red arrows a photo of a reproduction and it's that tiny gap that distinguishes it? The original in the next post is a much smaller view but I take it there's no gap there, correct? (Just wasn't sure I was seeing it.) What about the fact that in your original the areas between the eagle's head and the shoulders of the wings is not cut out whereas it is in the first two pictured shields? Is that significant or does that vary with manufacturer? Best regards, ---Norm Edited November 21, 2009 by Norm F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter BL Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Just to make sure I understand, is the photo you marked with the red arrows a photo of a reproduction and it's that tiny gap that distinguishes it? The original in the next post is a much smaller view but I take it there's no gap there, correct? (Just wasn't sure I was seeing it.) What about the fact that in your original the areas between the eagle's head and the shoulders of the wings is not cut out whereas it is in the first two pictured shields? Is that significant or does that vary with manufacturer? Best regards, ---Norm Hi Norm...yes you're right the scan with the red arrows highlight's what's wrong with this shield and yes, the wreath should sit firmly at the bottom of the crossbar. Deumer produced 2 types, this one's the later version with the 'filled in' shoulders. Check this thread out.. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17606&hl=Narvik&st=20 KR...Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Norm, the Deumer shield can also be found with cut-out space around the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter BL Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Hi Peter....Nice example to show the difference between the two types.... Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nesredep Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Norm, the Deumer shield can also be found with cut-out space around the head. Hi! Peter I did not know they excisted with cut-out around the head. Thanks for this information. All the best Morten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm F Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) Hi Norm...yes you're right the scan with the red arrows highlight's what's wrong with this shield and yes, the wreath should sit firmly at the bottom of the crossbar. Deumer produced 2 types, this one's the later version with the 'filled in' shoulders. Check this thread out.. http://gmic.co.uk/in...hl=Narvik&st=20 KR...Peter Norm, the Deumer shield can also be found with cut-out space around the head. Most illuminating. Thanks very much gentlemen. Best regards, ---Norm Edited November 21, 2009 by Norm F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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