claretbaron Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 do not konw what name of this by english. who can help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 do not konw what name of this by english. who can help me? Do you know the country of origin? Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretbaron Posted December 2, 2009 Author Share Posted December 2, 2009 Do you know the country of origin? Hugh this is chinease order, i am chinease i konw this name by chinease but do not konw by english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Claretbaron, As you are Chinese and speak english, I suppose you are able to propose a rough translation. Based on this, it is certainly possible to find the usual name of this order, or something approaching. My two cents... Cheers. Ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Hi Claretbaron, As you are Chinese and speak english, I suppose you are able to propose a rough translation. Based on this, it is certainly possible to find the usual name of this order, or something approaching. My two cents... Cheers. Ch. It's the early Republican Order of Merit, I believe yours to be probably second class. A rare item but without seeing the reverse difficult to know if genuine. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LaTondre Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 do not konw what name of this by english. who can help me? I believe that it is the Republic Order of Merit, Fourth Class, Second or Third Order. The rays represent the colors of th State of Manchukuo. The Four characters on the case read: (in my humble opinion) "Order of Merit 4th Class". I have more pictures in my file whick I need to locate. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claretbaron Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 I believe that it is the Republic Order of Merit, Fourth Class, Second or Third Order. The rays represent the colors of th State of Manchukuo. The Four characters on the case read: (in my humble opinion) "Order of Merit 4th Class". I have more pictures in my file whick I need to locate. Richard you collection is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwater Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 (edited) full name is :Republic Order of Merit. But this one no good. Red patch on the beads was a later history is not to the red beads of the Order of Merit. 这个章是后来拼凑的。 红色的珠子是后来修补上去的，历史上没有红色珠子的勋位章或者荣光宝星。 Edited December 17, 2009 by jcwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 full name is :Republic Order of Merit. But this one no good. Red patch on the beads was a later history is not to the red beads of the Order of Merit. 这个章是后来拼凑的。 红色的珠子是后来修补上去的，历史上没有红色珠子的勋位章或者荣光宝星。 Given that the piece has noticeable enamel damage and I know from personaal experience that the order damages quite easily is it possible that the piece is original but the beads are later replacements? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LaTondre Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 I believe that it is the Republic Order of Merit, Fourth Class, Second or Third Order. The rays represent the colors of th State of Manchukuo. The Four characters on the case read: (in my humble opinion) "Order of Merit 4th Class". I have more pictures in my file whick I need to locate. Richard The Order of Merit (order of the Merit and Rank) was an award that was given to a recipient in accodance with his rank or status within the Manchu Imperial Court. It was a short-lived order and little is known concerning the decoration itself. It was founded in 1912 by President Yuan Shikai and this 'insignia' was worn and ranked above all others in precedence. I am planning the publication of a new book on Chinese Medals within the next several months and it will be described in greater detail with more photographs of this rare medal. As promised, I am sending a photo of one of the medals contained in the Harry A. Mohler Collection, at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard LaTondre Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Given that the piece has noticeable enamel damage and I know from personaal experience that the order damages quite easily is it possible that the piece is original but the beads are later replacements? Paul As I keep saying: You need to examine the back. I agree with JCWater except the title of the medal in Chinese refers to the "rank" as well as "merit" Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwater Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The Order of Merit (order of the Merit and Rank) was an award that was given to a recipient in accodance with his rank or status within the Manchu Imperial Court. It was a short-lived order and little is known concerning the decoration itself. It was founded in 1912 by President Yuan Shikai and this 'insignia' was worn and ranked above all others in precedence. I am planning the publication of a new book on Chinese Medals within the next several months and it will be described in greater detail with more photographs of this rare medal. As promised, I am sending a photo of one of the medals contained in the Harry A. Mohler Collection, at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. Order of Merit is a great class during the period 1912 to 1928, Chinese head of state is unique, in addition to the great things there is another level of at least 5 grades, and Manchukuo has nothing to do, also has nothing to do the Qing Dynasty. But the form with the Qing Dynasty (1909) promulgated the 《清王公爵位章图述》recorded in a similar style. See 《Chiese orders 1862-1955》 of the appendix P196～P209. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwater Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 Order of Merit is a great class or call The Order of Rank and Merit Grand Order. 1912 to 1928, Chinese head of state is unique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwater Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 second Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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