Emanuel Posted December 11, 2009 Posted December 11, 2009 Great item Paja, do you have both of them as a pair or? 1st Lieutenant (Pourucnik) indeed.
paja Posted December 11, 2009 Author Posted December 11, 2009 Thanks Emanuel, no, it's the same one on this pics. But I bought it along with this one It seems to be unused, it isn't pierced and the golden part is not made of metal. It's also red (infantry) I think it's for the higher officers (major up). Can you tell something more about it? Is this item authentic, was it used by millitary and in what period?
Emanuel Posted December 13, 2009 Posted December 13, 2009 Yes paja, as you said it's an unused High Officer epolete but without the 4 crack stars and the metal part. These epoletes was used from Serbian-SHS and after that Yugoslavian Kingdom army from 1920-1939. There were influenced from Russian Empire's Military style (before that and from 1861-1882 Serbian Officers and Underofficers had epoletes influenced by Austrian Army) from 1882 until, as you know, the begining of Communist era in the Country.
paja Posted December 13, 2009 Author Posted December 13, 2009 Emaunel thanks for info! You mentioned Communist era, it's interesting that even Yugoslav Army (Jugoslovenska armija) after the WW2 (from 1946 'till 1955) used very similar hard epaulettes, looking up to Soviet model, just as Yugoslav Royal Army was looking up to Russian Empire. Shoulder boards 1920-1939 - Officers
Valter Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 This pair belonged to my late grandfather-in-law, he was a reserve 2nd lieutenant of AA artillery. At the time of attack to Yugoslavia (6th April 1941) he was mobilised and sent to navy base of Boka Kotorska, where according to the family history his unit shot down one of attacking Stuka's.
Valter Posted December 18, 2009 Posted December 18, 2009 the reverse... sorry for crappy pics, but I don't have boards with me at the moment.
SasaYU Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Beautifull pair of epolettes Valter. And rich family history as I can see. Congratulations. :cheers:
Valter Posted December 19, 2009 Posted December 19, 2009 Thank you, Saša! I'm glad I got these epaulettes - and the story is also interesting. The grandpa died before I met my wife, so I didn't know him but I've hear alot about him. He was talking about this shot down stuka and said the pilot was blown in half, his lower body missing, but the upper body was still in a cabin, with open eyes and very confused face... I don't know if that was true, but sounds interesting... :o
paja Posted December 20, 2009 Author Posted December 20, 2009 Nice piece of history with a scary story behind it. Thanks for sharing it with us Valter!
SasaYU Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 Interesting story. Worth investiagating... War stories could be so incredible, but also so true.
Zaim Qyteza Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 Attach an Albanian Mod.47 epaulette of a police lieutenant. Those epaulettes were Yugoslavian furnished. Besides this color, this kind of epaulettes, exist also with black and green color. They were used untill 1952. Artan
Zaim Qyteza Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 heres mine Dear Andyg, My compliments. Very beautiful pieces. Can you tell me, if this kind of epaulettes have been used even during first period Tito? Or, at least, in the same time with the Albanian using of them (1947-1952).
paja Posted January 5, 2010 Author Posted January 5, 2010 Andyg thank you very much for high resolution pics. I'm spechless, beautiful collection, especially those parade uniform shoulder boards!
paja Posted January 5, 2010 Author Posted January 5, 2010 Dear Andyg, My compliments. Very beautiful pieces. Can you tell me, if this kind of epaulettes have been used even during first period Tito? Or, at least, in the same time with the Albanian using of them (1947-1952). Artan as I said before communists were using the same or very similar hard epaulettes from 1946 'till 1955.
paja Posted January 5, 2010 Author Posted January 5, 2010 (edited) I found some pics on ebay, hope it's not forbiden to post them... Artillery 2nd Lieutenant Edited January 5, 2010 by paja
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