Canada Royal Canadian Mounted Police badges and uniforms

[welshplace]

I am new here. I am trying to determine what the pattern date is for the latest RCMP wallet badge. Anyone have a picture? Thank you

[Mervyn Mitton]

Welshplace - you are very welcome on GMIC - just an unusual avatar from the US. I hope we will be seeing you regularly - meanwhile

I am sure that a Canadian member will be able to help with your query. Mervyn

[Laurence Strong]

Hello Welshplace. Welcome to GMIC

You might want to ask the question here:

http://blueline.ca/

Though I am not sure how they will recieve the question.

Goodluck in your search

Larry

[insigniaguy]

Hi everyone,

Here is a pic of the pin worn by RCMP Members and many others, during 2012 - the year of the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebration. It's hard to see, but the number 60 is at bottom center of the design. RCMP Members could wear this pin even if they were not among the 60,000 Canadians who received the QDJ medal.

[QSAMIKE]

Just a few R.C.M.P. Collectors Pins for your viewing......

Mike

[Mervyn Mitton]

Insigniaguy - welcome to GMIC. Keep the posts coming - you've already inspired Mike to show further examples............ Mervyn

[insigniaguy]

Thx - okay, here is another pic - need some info on this one - I call this a charm due to its size. It might really be called something else.

This is from the RCMP. The Member's regimental number was engraved on the bottom; it is in the 19,000 series. The exact number was checked with the graves site for more info. Unfortunately, while it shows the Member's name, it does not list exact dates of duty. I estimate this to be from the late 1950s to early 1960s.

This is really tiny. It measures about 13/16 of an inch from top center of shield to bottom center of shield, and about the same across - roughly 16 to 17 mm. On the back, there is a mark - very tiny and difficult to read even with a jeweler's loupe, but might say 10 K.

Would this really have been made of gold? Regardless, I assume it is some kind of sweetheart item for a lady to wear.

Does anyone know whether the RCMP allows these to be made presently, with the current style of badge?

Is there some chronological list of RCMP regimental numbers, indicating the dates that the Members entered on duty?

Thx for any help.

[QSAMIKE]

I have seen a number of these and the Copyrite symbol on your picture covers one important piece of information......

The one given to my Mother of her retirement has the number 26,471 engraved on it and is 18k Gold......

Mike

[insigniaguy]

Hi Mike,

Thx for the info - nice 18 K item! I'm sure these have been around for a while - at least in times past. My copyright symbol covers a regimental number in the 19,000 range. Thx again.

[insigniaguy]

Here is something you don't see everyday -

This is a baldric/sash used by a drum major in an RCMP band.

It's worn over the drum major's left shoulder.

It measures approximately 36 inches long (91 cm) and 6 3/4 inches wide (17 CM).

Thx to the guy who sent me this photo.

[upnorth]

The sliding internal carrier of an original 45-75 lever action

[peter monahan]

Some very nice finds there, Upnorth. Please tell me they didn't come from Batouche or Red River!

[upnorth]

Some very nice finds there, Upnorth. Please tell me they didn't come from Batouche or Red River!

I would never collect from a designated historic site, no they are not. This and more were found in Prince Albert Saskatchewan. Forget barracks sites, look for dumps and fire arms training sites. My finds were in fields 12 to a mile from the old original barracks, which is now an urban native reserve. The black oval piece is off the horn of an officers saddle, I traced his history.

[peter monahan]

Excellent! I know archaeologists love garbage dumps for artifacts and obviously around old building sites would be, potentially at least, rich pickings too. Fascinating bunch of stuff.

Peter

[insigniaguy]

Here is an old banner that was used by the RCMP in times past by a band. Exactly how old is unknown. But this is different from the banner used currently. The current banner is attached to bagpipes and the background is a dark blue. The current banner's crest, while similar to the blue banner's crest pictured here, is turned 90 degrees.

The blue banner is 16 inches tall (41 cm) on the left side and 12 1/2 inches tall (32 cm) on the right side.

It is 17 inches wide (43 cm) from left center edge to the right center blue edge.

The reverse side of the blue banner is the red one pictured.

Need your help in identifying both the logo on the red banner, and what the letters mean. I think, but am unsure, that the logo represents British Columbia. If that's true, then I still don't know what the letters mean, nor why only 2 of the 3 letters have periods after them, making this say, B. AB.

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[peter monahan]

I think "A. AB. stands for "B Detachment, Alberta" which is the Airdrie detachment. Not sure about the logo.

Edited March 13, 2013 by peter monahan

[insigniaguy]

Thx for the info! I guess the logo remains a mystery!

[MP collector]

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Yea those logos are from "RCMP E Div. Pipe Band" they are out of Vancouver B.C. They were formed in April of 2006.

The ones I posted are how they look in parade, I am thinking the ones you have were not used in actual parade because they are incorrect, being that the logos run the wrong way and that if you hung them on the base drone of the pipe the logos would face the wrong way because the long side of the banner would be at the end. Maybe they were made as samples? or they are simply manufacturer error...I wonder if Emblazon Embroidery Co. made these? or maybe Gastaldo tailors.

As for the B.A B.....well it's not Alberta that's "K Div".......You could email them and ask . Very nice to have though

Here is an old banner that was used by the RCMP in times past by a band. Exactly how old is unknown. But this is different from the banner used currently. The current banner is attached to bagpipes and the background is a dark blue. The current banner's crest, while similar to the blue banner's crest pictured here, is turned 90 degrees.

The blue banner is 16 inches tall (41 cm) on the left side and 12 1/2 inches tall (32 cm) on the right side.

It is 17 inches wide (43 cm) from left center edge to the right center blue edge.

The reverse side of the blue banner is the red one pictured.

Need your help in identifying both the logo on the red banner, and what the letters mean. I think, but am unsure, that the logo represents British Columbia. If that's true, then I still don't know what the letters mean, nor why only 2 of the 3 letters have periods after them, making this say, B. AB.

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[insigniaguy]

Hi - thx much for the posting and the pics - the mystery continues - the logo on the red banner pic I posted, shows the 3 letters B. AB. with no period after the "A" - on your pic, while it is not as clear, yours shows 3 letters, all with a period after each, and the last letter is "B" - but it looks as if the other 2 letters are not "B" and "A" - can't tell what they are due to the fancy script used.

But you're right - your pics, and all other pics I have seen of pipe bands, show these banners hanging from the bagpipes just like your pics show - so we can easily see the logos. On the ones I pictured, the logos are sideways.

I don't have the "story" behind my pics, hence the inquiry.

In any event - in your pic, and again in all other Internet pics I have seen - the blue banner is a darker shade of blue than in the pic I posted. As you said- seems like a sample or manufacturer error - but the crest emblem is still great! Thx again. Still looking for a blue banner just like you pictured, too!

[insigniaguy]

Okay - here is the definitive word on the letters on the red RCMP banner pictured above, and on the different one pictured on the prior page -

The letters are the initials of the Commanding Officer of "E" Division in British Columbia, who is a Deputy Commissioner.

The letters change when the Commanding Officer changes, so just as there are 2 pictures on this site that show 2 different sets of initials, you will see still others since so far, after the pipe band's development there in 2006, there have been 4 Commanding Officers with 4 different banners made.

The red banner on the prior page is likely a sample or something - it is missing a period after the middle initial, and the crest is sewn on 90 degrees to where it should be.

Many thanks to MP Collector for clearing up the mystery!

[insigniaguy]

Here are closeup pics of 2 Retired RCMP badges.

The one on the Left is older and predates the switch to bilingual insignia which occurred around 1974.

The one on the Right is current style.

Both are unofficial and are not issued items.

But they still look nice and are not easy to obtain.

Neither one has any marking on the back.

I understand Members are not given any kind of Retired badge upon retirement. Instead, they may get their issued wallet badge encased in lucite/plastic. They also get some ID card which is quite different from their issued identification card.

I have seen a pic of a retired badge, similar to the gold colored one on the Right, that had a silver colored center crest but was clearly a Retired badge and not the issued wallet badge. And of course, I have seen the other pics of Retired badges that others have posted in this forum.

Still seeking other RCMP Retired badges - and of course, a wallet badge.

[johnnyrocket]

Thanks insigniaguy for the posting. I love looking at these RCMP badges retired or not.

Johnny R.

[insigniaguy]

Hi Johnny,

Thx - wish I had even more Retired badges to show - and of course, a wallet badge! Still looking for the issued wallet into which the newer Retired badge can fit.

[insigniaguy]

Here are pictures of an RCMP Long Service and Good Conduct medal, both obverse and reverse, plus a pic of the outside of the case.

Click on each picture, for a larger view.

The case has a nice rendition of the Force crest - looks very similar to a collar badge.

Note that the reverse says, For Long Service and Good Conduct - in French.

Most of these medals, awarded after serving 20 years in good standing, have English on the reverse.

So what you see is actually quite rare. I have not seen similar photos of the reverse of this medal in French. You can find lots of pics of the English versions.

I believe the French version for this medal began around 1989.

The particular medal was awarded to the Member in the mid 1990s. The recipient's name is engraved on the edge of the medal.

The medallion itself, made of sterling silver, is approximately 1/8 inch (3 mm) thick and 1 3/8 inches (35 mm) wide.

Still need one like this with English on the reverse.

Edited June 2, 2013 by insigniaguy

[johnnyrocket]

Here is a link to a site that fits perfect into this thread. Great images of RCMP wallet badges too (active and retired).

Johnny R.

http://www.rcmpolice.ca/kit.html