leigh kitchen Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 (edited) The Irish Guards were formed on 1/4/1900 & the first recruit to the regiment was enlisted on 21/4/1900. Formed in appreciation of the Irish units which had served in the Boer War, the regiment was open to Irish soldiers who were serving in the other Guards & line infantry regiment Originally nicknamed Bobs Own after Lord Roberts, an Irishman & the first Colonel of the regiment, they were known by WWI as The Micks. The design of the cap badge has remained the same through the life of the regiment: the 8 pointed star of the Order of St Patrick, a circular band in the centre carrying the regimental motto "QUIS SEPARABIT" ("Who Shall Separate Us") & "MDCCLXXXIII" (1783 the year the Order of St Patrick was created). The buttons bear a crowned harp. Fourth in seniority amongst the five regiments of Foot Guards, The Irish Guards wear a St. Patrcks blue plume in their bearskins, a green band & piping on their caps & their tunic front buttons spaced in fours with 4 buttons on each cuff. This cap bears a gold anodised version of the cap badge, sealed 20/5/1953 (Kipling & King Vol 2 page 26) & gold anodised buttons bearng the current Queen Elizabeth II's St Edward's Crown over the harp. The chinstrap is of leather, as appears to be the peak (rather than the later plastc)& the peak has a brass rim as worn by the rank of Guardsman - ranks of Lance Sergeant & above wore an additional band of brass on the peak. Edited April 19, 2010 by leigh kitchen
Mervyn Mitton Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 I hope this becomes a detailed history thread,Leigh. I think these backgrounds are invaluable for research and quick reference. Thanks.Merv.
coldstream Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Leigh I have never seen a Guardsmans cap without the wire stiffner in the top and that 'Officers' look would not have been tolerated. (A polite way of saying 'Lock that Guardsman up!') Here is the colour image from 'His majestys British Army'
leigh kitchen Posted April 19, 2010 Author Posted April 19, 2010 Yes, like a Tankies beret is'nt it - I bought about half a dozen caps a few days ago, including a fairly modern Grenadiers & a Welsh Guards Muscians cap - looks old but has anod buttons - but then I suppose the anod buttons would have come in 50-odd years ago. The shape of this Irish Guards cap is similar to the way officers in various units wore theirs, the saddle effect. I'll be rooting around for irish Guards stuff I have Merv, the usual scrapbook effect of insignia & photos etc.
Paul L Murphy Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Just to add a few bits and pieces of Irish Guards items that I have in my collection. Up first a standard beret for a Guardsman with recent issue cap badge. Next a full dress shoulderboard for a captain in the Irish Guards, followed by a full dress shoulderboard for an NCO.
Paul L Murphy Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Next we have the full dress tunic for a drummer.
Paul L Murphy Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Followed by the full dress tunic of a guardsman (missing a button)
Paul L Murphy Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Some officer's cap badges, WWI era and then more recent
Paul L Murphy Posted April 19, 2010 Posted April 19, 2010 Last for now, an Irish Guard's WO2 rank badge.
leigh kitchen Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 Nce stuff Paul - you have tunics - you must have a bearskin?
Mervyn Mitton Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Some lovely pieces, Paul. I'm puzzled though by the embroidered design on the drummer's tunic. Are the little blue motifs representing a fleur-de-lis or, perhaps a shamrock ? I'm probably way off on both suggestions .....
leigh kitchen Posted April 20, 2010 Author Posted April 20, 2010 The fdl pattern lace is still used by the Guards Merv.
Paul L Murphy Posted April 20, 2010 Posted April 20, 2010 Nce stuff Paul - you have tunics - you must have a bearskin? Unfortunately not. I have always baulked at the price they go for on ebay etc !
Mike Dwyer Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I have a pair of cufflinks that I bought many years ago from a militaria dealer that I was told were Irish Guards cufflinks. They have a red enamel shield with the St. Patrick's star in the middle.
coldstream Posted May 9, 2010 Posted May 9, 2010 A nice example of a silk postcard to the Irish Guards from the Great War period. The card is postally unused and bears no maker mark.
coldstream Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 The British section on GMIC does seem very quiet at the moment so I have been going through a few old files and decided to post what I have found, Leigh started this thread many years ago along with other Regimental threads which I used to enjoy very much, They are, for me a good way of assembling images and information to Regiments in one reference source. Here is a postcard I used to have showing an Irish Guardsman serving with the Guards Armoured Brigade and wearing the distinctive 'Ever Open Eye' formation patch and 'Irish Guards' shoulder flash on his battle dress blouse. Please feel free to add anything you have to these Regimental threads or even start a new one! Simon This card shows a Piper of the Irish Guards probably taken in the postwar National Service era. Of note is the Pipers Caubeen style headress with oversized Regimental badge and saffron coloured kilt. This photograph, again probably from the National Service era shows the Home Service clothing being worn and clearly shows the Regimental distinctions of buttons in 4's, shamrock collar badges and St Patricks blue plume worn on the right side of the bearskin cap. And this card shows the khaki coloured forage cap in wear with Regimental cap star.
grenadierguardsman Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I got this today, a lucky find on eBay. 66mm/65mm lugged E/W. Andy
QSAMIKE Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Quote Here is one of the first Irish Guards members..... His enlistment date was the 22nd of April, 1900 and he was sent to South Africa to serve in the Boer War within 3 months..... A few pictures for your enjoyment..... Irish Guards Mounted Infantry, No. 2 Company, 2 Section His Medal and his Bed Plate Mike
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