Persia Order of Nishan-i-limi ( Order of Arts & Science)

[Markus]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information!) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. Private collection.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Markus

[Markus]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information.) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. A grouping of various types. Private Collection.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Markus

[Markus]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information.) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. Spada Collection, exhibited in The Legion of Honor Museum Paris France.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Markus

[Markus]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information!) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. Another school was founded at the same time as the Polytechnic College of Tehran, The Dar al-Funun military academy. This medal with military style of Lion and Sun with sword could have been related to the military accademy. This medal was in it's original Halley Lasne box. Markus collection.

Edited February 9, 2012 by Markus

[Markus]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information!) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. Another school was founded at the same time as the Polytechnic College of Tehran, The Dar al-Funun military academy. This medal with military style of Lion and Sun with sword could have been related to the military accademy. Markus collection. Close up of the medallion.

Edited February 9, 2012 by Markus

[Great Dane]

I have posted this before, but it seems to fit the thread nicely

Recipient is unknown, apart from "railroad engineer, working in Persia"...

/Michael

[Markus]

Very nice Michael! Seems like the proper ribbon would be a red ribbon and along the way sometime a dealer replaced my example with a green ribbon. I like the officer ribbon on yours. Quite a nice medal bar.

[James Hoard]

Officially instituted in 1852 and called the Nishan-i-Ilmi (Order of the Arts and Sciences) as a reward artistic and scientific merit for those who had achieved success in their studies at the recently founded Polytechnic College of Tehran. Later converted to a full scale state order of merit for the advancement of learning and dissemination of knowledge by scientists, writers, educators, artists, etc. (Thank You James Hoard for this information.) According to an article written by Robert Macnamara in OMSA publication, This order had four classes, beginning with a copper medal, then an eight-pointed badge, in silver and in gilt, and a ten-pointed badge in gilt for first class. The upper classes in particular were more or less reserved for foreign professors, many from Vienna, who staffed the institution. Spada Collection, exhibited in The Legion of Honor Museum Paris France.

I remember reading once that the Military War College in Tehran had a decoration for its students and professors, a military counterpart for the civil decoration at the Polytechnic. But I have never found any further information about it, what became of it or if it also eventually morphed into an official state decoration.

Perhaps this decoration with the standing lion holding sword is actually the War College decoration, rather than the Nishan-i-Ilmi.

Again, I think we can forget the green ribbon. More dealer's 'hocus-pocus'.

Cheers,

James

[JapanX]

Again, I think we can forget the green ribbon. More dealer's 'hocus-pocus'.

I see you are deadly serious about this "replacement hypothesis" James :)

[JapanX]

Please welcome green ribbon specimen.

Close relative of this one.

[JapanX]

Obverse

[JapanX]

Reverse

[JapanX]

Comparison

[JapanX]

If not "identical", then darn close to it ;)

[JapanX]

And now companion piece for standing lion with superimposed crown.

[JapanX]

Clearly marked speciment with at least one french mark (800). My guess it`s our old friend Arthus Bertrand work.

Let`s compare it with another specimen from above.

[JapanX]

Comparison

[Guest IMHF]

There is a small piece online that I was looking at can you share some information about it.

Order of Humayun

Arthus Bertrand, I wonder if the ribbon is correct?

[JapanX]

At last!!! It`s about time for us to see some unified examples of lion and sun order

P.S. This post was a remark to my post 17 ;)

Edited January 29, 2012 by JapanX

[JapanX]

There is a small piece online that I was looking at can you share some information about it.

Order of Humayun

Arthus Bertrand, I wonder if the ribbon is correct?

Yep. You are right. This is Arthus Bertrand. After 1925 type of order and ribbon. Ribbon is correct one. I am planing to create a thread completely dovoted to these Bertrand lions

Cheers,

Nick

[Guest IMHF]

There is a small piece online that I was looking at can you share some information about it.

Order of Humayun

Arthus Bertrand, I wonder if the ribbon is correct?

Image of the reverse:

[JapanX]

Some additional pieces

A low quality miniature?

[JapanX]

Another specimen on green ribbon

[James Hoard]

I see you are deadly serious about this "replacement hypothesis" James

It is perfectly obvious what happened here.

Like you, the dealer originally had no idea that this was a distinct decoration. He saw the lion and sun motif, assumed it was part of that order, so added a green ribbon.

Cheers,

James

[JapanX]

It is perfectly obvious what happened here.

Like you, the dealer originally had no idea that this was a distinct decoration. He saw the lion and sun motif, assumed it was part of that order, so added a green ribbon.

Cheers,

James

Of course James, all these dealers - they all just like me...

And it is obvious of course.

24/7 they are busy with replacement process.

Everything that is not green was destroyed.

And this green ribbons ...

I guess there was some manufacturer to satisfy this dealer demand?

Cheers,

Nick