Turkey J.H.WERNER Turkish War Medals with the date 333

[demir]

Hello,

Here are the samples of JHWerner TWMs with the date 333 on them instead of 1333.

Regards

demir

[demir]

JH WERNER owned by murat (GMIC)

[demir]

This was posted by Tim B (GMIC)

[demir]

AnotherJ H Werner, I don't know where I copied from.

[demir]

J H Werner

[demir]

JH WERNER I don't know where I found the picture. Date turned.

[TerryG]

Great photos and great Stars. I want them all! even without the '1'....

[R.S.]

So what is the significance of the missing 1 ? I have just purchased a Turkish 3rd pattern and this is missing the 1 , why would the Turks miss a 1 out ? . Cheers Rob

[TerryG]

Poor workmanship? Worn dies? Illiterate worker?

[R.S.]

Terry possibly but I doubt it . No there must be a reason why 1333 ( 1915 ) is 333 any Turkish historians here ? Rob

[TerryG]

There is no 'historical' reason why the one is missing. The year in the arabic calendar also has 4 digits and the 1 has been chopped off. The true reason behind this remains conjecture. This has been discussed and I do not see this as a reason to reject the piece. Can you show the back of the star please?

Edited February 21, 2012 by TerryG

[demir]

So what is the significance of the missing 1 ? I have just purchased a Turkish 3rd pattern and this is missing the 1 , why would the Turks miss a 1 out ? . Cheers Rob

Hi,

These were not made by the Turks. These were all foreign made. Turkish made red lacquer painted original ones have the date 1333 on them.

Please read the threads on this subject: http://www.wehrmacht...ad.php?t=567051

Regards

Demir

Edited February 21, 2012 by demir

[R.S.]

Phew what an argument here is a photo of the back . I thought the sewn piece of ribbon is typical of Turkish worn awards . Rob

[R.S.]

And thanks for the links Demir . Rob

[R.S.]

And my other one just to show . Rob

[TerryG]

This 'painted' Turkish one does not have the correct pin......Demir, do you agree?

[R.S.]

http://militarianz.freeforums.org/id-the-original-from-the-fake-turkish-gallipoli-star-1333-t2229.html

Not according to this bunch . Rob

[TerryG]

Looks like one person on there is giving an opinion. I think the issue of the Turkish made star and its poor quality pin has been discussed elsewhere.

[demir]

This 'painted' Turkish one does not have the correct pin......Demir, do you agree?

Hi Terry,

Which medal. As far as I know TWM, there is no Ottoman mint made Medal picture in this thread.

Regards

[demir]

http://militarianz.f...1333-t2229.html

Not according to this bunch . Rob

Hi Rob,

I checked that thread. Only the first picture is the Ottoman make, the rest who knows.

Information given there about the Ottoman Made Medal in the first paragraph is OK. Who produced 2nd and 3rd one needs clarification.

The facts about the TWM is in my recently published book named "the Turkish War Medal".

Regards

Demir

Regards

Edited February 26, 2012 by demir

[TerryG]

Hi Terry,

Which medal. As far as I know TWM, there is no Ottoman mint made Medal picture in this thread.

Regards

Merhaba Demir. Yes this is what I was trying to say. I look forward to reading your book when I get back to the UK! Here is the back of my Turkish Star.

Edited February 22, 2012 by TerryG

[R.S.]

Hi Demir do you have a link to where your book can be purchased . Thankyou Rob

[demir]

Merhaba Demir. Yes this is what I was trying to say. I look forward to reading your book when I get back to the UK! Here is the back of my Turkish Star.

Merhaba Terry,

I will get the books tomorrow and will post next week.

Regards

Demir

[demir]

Hi Demir do you have a link to where your book can be purchased . Thankyou Rob

Hello Rob,

As I said to Terry, I will get the books tomorrow and can post them next week.

Here is the info about the book in our GMIC "latest Classifieds" section.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/classifieds/item/66-the-turkish-war-medal/

Regards

Demir