Army Pilot Badge Evolution

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Very interesting point of view was expressed recently regarding badge in posts #161-164 and #175-178.

It is fake because a) rays penetrate the feather array at the top and b) the star is brazed onto the badge, not riveted.

Let`s discuss this

These are the places we are currently interested

"Normal" rays

"Nomal" riveted star

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"Our" badge indeed has rays that penetrated the feather array at the top

and no signs of riverting

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Interesting that badge on the left (in the post #162) with original pin have practically "normal rays"

See?

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Reverse (for view with raised needle see posts #163-164)

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But last badge has another pretty alarming quality ...

Take a look at this drips om propeller and edge

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But the real fun begins with this badge!

These rays look familiar

Edited October 14, 2013 by JapanX

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Check out this inscribed reverse

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Insciption reads (thanks Chris for your generous help with translation! )

大刀洗陸軍飛行学校　

School for military pilots at Tachiarai Fukuoka Prefecture

Left side:

Kanji:第一期特別幹部候補生

1^st inaugural class for officer candidates

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Another inscribed badge of the same type.

Penetration again

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Reverse

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Reverse inscription is hard to read, but it`s obvious that this badge has engraved (!!!) insciption and riverted star (!!!).

Two kanji on the lefy look like name "Ikeda" (thanks Chris! )

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Now another "player".

This time completely silvered one

Say "hi" to penetration

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Reverse (note different type of pin)

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Now what are these badges?

Originals or post-war replicas?

It`s quite understandable to me why these badges look suspecious to our colleagues.

First of all they often can be found in this brand new boxes

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Another badge and another such box

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Slight penetration?

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Reverse (note how fat is the pin)

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In addition to the boxes some of these badges have very fresh look (way too fresh!) + they have painted wreath (and sometimes not very carefully painted wreath ) ...

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All these things make these badges look dubious ...

But what about inscribed badge from post #187-189?

Hmmm ...

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Now let`s return to this couple of badges from posts # 161-164.

Both badges appeared on the YJ this summer.

First badge was sold on YJ on June 19

Then on August 18 it appeared together with second badge (without pin) on other YJ auction

where only badge without pin was sold.

October 7 this badge without pin was sold on eBay.

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Well, what do you think about these badges chaps?

P.S. Unfortunately not only these badges could be dubious, but also badges from posts #31-40 + badges with flat pin ...

Cheers,

Nick

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Just to cheer you up - another cavalier of pilot badge

At least his badge is 100% original