Paul R Posted April 28, 2012 Posted April 28, 2012 From everything I can see, these ranks are for Corporal and Junior Sargeant. However, all of the charts have these rankings in red, not gold or silver. These velcro chest rankings are for use on the Serbian War(1999) era field jacket. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Paul R Posted April 28, 2012 Author Posted April 28, 2012 Here is the M93 jacket they go onto... notice the velcro square where the rank would be afixed.
Paul R Posted April 29, 2012 Author Posted April 29, 2012 Anyone have any cluese about this question? :sleep:
paja Posted April 29, 2012 Posted April 29, 2012 Greetings Paul, Red rankings are for soldiers and the gold ones are for NCOs, officers and generals. Left one on your picture is for Sergeants (vodnik prve klase) and the right one is for Senior Sergeants (stariji vodnik). I used the translation from the table below.
Paul R Posted April 30, 2012 Author Posted April 30, 2012 Thank you very much. What time period were these insignia used? The insignia on my left(in my picture) are upside down? Did they both use the NCO beret badge, or did they use the Enlisted beret badge? For some reason, the officer beret badges are very common, whereas the NCO versions are very rare. Were there not many NCOs?
paja Posted April 30, 2012 Posted April 30, 2012 Paul you are welcome. I'm not sure which year where they exactly introduced, but they where used in Yugoslav National Army (before 1991), and later in Army of Yugoslavia and in Army of Serbia and Montenegro (Now Army of Serbia does not use them in that form anymore). I'm not sure if the translations of ranks in that table are correct because I saw that some people are traslating vodnik prve klase as Sergeant 1st Class and stariji vodnik as Sergeant Major. I think that this translation is better. About the beret badges, if I'm not mistaking you had in mind those Army of Yugoslavia badges, right? I think that the reason why NCO badges are rarer is because, according to some information that I have found, they were in use only from 1994 until 1997. But I'm really not sure about that and I also think that later NCOs and officers were using the same beret badge. I hope that this will be of some use to you.
Paul R Posted April 30, 2012 Author Posted April 30, 2012 Thank you for that. I am building a 1995 field uniform and want to have an accurate set. Thank you very much. I very much appreciate the detailed explanation.
paja Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 You are welcome Paul. I just wanted to mention that sometimes there were also insiginas of branch or profession on these breast ranks. Here's a picture of couple of mine breast ranks.
paja Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Here's also a picture of those beret badges for officers of the Army of Yugolsavia. From left to right: Navy, Land Forces, Air Force.
Paul R Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks for posting those insignia. I did not know that they added military specialty devices onto the chest straps. What years did this happen? Did Officers do this, or was it also the norm for enlisted and NCOs? How many different specialty marks did the Serbian Army use? Do you have a medical example? The beret badges are awesome. I was able to find a Senior NCO version. I am building a Serbian War period uniform. So far, I have a winter field coat with liner, a nice patched M93 camoflage uniform, and beret with officer badge(Which I am replacing with the NCO beret badge.
Paul R Posted May 4, 2012 Author Posted May 4, 2012 Here are the tunic and beret. The tunic does not have the provision for attaching rank, as you can see. Was rank sewn onto the sleeve somehow?
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) This type of branch insignia was introduced after 1955. They are still in use in Army of Serbia, only difference is that now NCOs wear silver and officers wear the gold ones. From left to right: Medical, Veterinarian, Pharmacy. Edited May 5, 2012 by paja 1
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Engineering, Comunications, Atomic Biological and Chemical Defense. Edited May 5, 2012 by paja
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) Geodetic Service, Building Service, Traffic Units. Edited May 5, 2012 by paja
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Ground Forces Technical Service, Navy Technical Service, Air Force Technical Service.
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Judicial Service, Financial Service, Quartermaster Service.
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Informatics Service and Musicians (Gold - Military personnel, Silver - Civilian personnel).
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Air Monitoring Reporting and Guidance, Electronic Surveillance, Paratroopers and School for Reserve Officers.
Paul R Posted May 5, 2012 Author Posted May 5, 2012 This type of branch insignia was introduced after 1955. They are still in use in Army of Serbia, only difference is that now NCOs wear silver and officers wear the gold ones. From left to right: Medical, Veterinarian, Pharmacy. Were these worn in 1995? These are the same as the dress collar insingia, are they not?
paja Posted May 5, 2012 Posted May 5, 2012 Yes, they were in use back then and the army is still using them even now. And yes you are right, they are the same as the dress collar insignia.
Paul R Posted May 5, 2012 Author Posted May 5, 2012 Awesome. So all I need is to find a chest rank with a medical emblem for a field medic set up for the war period.
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