paul wood Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 34th Sikh Pioneers took part in the Kut campaign and later distinguished themselves in the Mashud campaign of 1919, not listed as a casualty and as another rank virtually unresearchable.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Evenden Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 well here is my offering to this subsection :_3027 SEPOY MANGAL SINGH 46 PJBIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 They served in the North West Frontier until late 1917 when they were sent to Egypt. Most of their action involved avoiding tribesman's bullets.Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Evenden Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks for the info Paul much appreciated Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koyli Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I started collecting Indian single WW1 medals to the different ranks and professions due to reading this topic some years ago. I have up to now collected quite a few and usually I have no difficulty in identifying the occupation or rank. However there are three medals which I am having trouble with. I hope someone can help. They are : P Jemadar RP Clerk Mate SK Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 KOYLI, welcome to the GMIC. And with a topic dear to my heart too! Sadly, at the moment, I have no idea what any of the three ranks/rates mean but will do a little digging. Could you perhaps let us know which units these men belonged to,as it may have some bearing. There are some very odd ranks among the various 'followers' of the old IA and some of the 'Bombay Presidency' units seem to have used unusual terms, I'm assuming based on the old, pre-amalgamation, ranks and trades. Any chance that 'Mate SK' is a naval rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 RP Clerk=Recruit Processing Clerk P Jemedar=Probationary Jemedar Paul Mate SK= Mate Storekeeper (Indian Marine rank) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koyli Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I started collecting Indian single WW1 medals to the different ranks and professions due to reading this topic some years ago. I have up to now collected quite a few and usually I have no difficulty in identifying the occupation or rank. However there are three medals which I am having trouble with. I hope someone can help. They are : P Jemadar RP Clerk Mate SK Cheers Hi Peter and Paul, I thank you for your replies and then especially Paul for his suggestions. I have no doubt you are correct Paul. However the MATE SK was with the Mesopotamian Railways. The P Jemadar also was with the Mespot Rlys and the RP Clerk with the Supply and Transport Corps. I am glad I finally have some answers. If you should be up for a another challenge I have three abbr. for units that have me stumped. They are : P. P. 50 S C CPs TC TFC Best Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Oh, well done, Paul! "Probationary Jemadar' would never have occurred to me. 'TC' is just possibly an abbreviation for 'Training Centre', but that doesn't explain the 'TFC' after it. Edited May 7, 2019 by peter monahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 KOYLI could you give me thd units of the queeies it is very relevant . With the P Jemedar as he is Meso Rly it could conceivably be Points Jemedar. The others I am sure I am right. Mate is normally marine but can also be Railways and Military establishments such as arsenals and fortresses. Paul 50 SC Cps is 50th Sillidar Camel Corps. Sillidars provided their own camels Dont know why that jumped to tbe bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 P.P. Pasupati Prasad Regiment, Nepalese Army. Served in India during the Great War enabling Indian forces to be freed for overseas service. TC TFC Transport? Control Traffic Tfc is definitely traffic. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koyli Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Hi again, Thank you Paul for the info on the units.You must have the ultimate Indian Military abbreviations book in your possesion , It's great being able to rely on your knowledge, so thanks again. However the info I gave is all I have as to units. There is no further info available. Lawry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 No book on abbreviations. I have collected medals to Indians during British rule for 15 years. I have,around 1000 medals. One of my main interests is unusual units trades and ranks. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koyli Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Hi Paul, I was kidding about the book of course. But take my hat of to you for the knowledge that you have acquired during your years of collecting. I myself have only asmall collecton of single medals to Indian Army different trades and ranks (for the moment 81). I also collect Indian Army badges to units that fought in Europe. Having said that, I started looking up the Pashupati Prasad Regiment finding very little information. Would there be any regimental history to be found anywhere ? My understanding is it was a Nepalese unit. Nepal was and is a sovereign state. Being an ally to Britain it sent regular troops to India to take over security and guard duties. This is something quite different from Nepalese citizens joining Gurkha units in the Indian Army. I am supposing that my fellow ( civilian follower ) had only entitlement to the British War Medal. This however, to my mind, doesn’t tally with the definition for receiving this medal as stated on the National Archives website. Yes they served in a war zone (North West Frontier) but they were not part of British or Imperial troops. Am I right or am I missing something? Lawry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Two Nepalese regiments received tbe Victory medal for services in Waziristan. All the other regiments received just the BWM. Nepalese units also served in the 3rd Afghan war. I have a sizeable section of Nepalese contingent medals. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koyli Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Thank you Paul Lawry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) On 09/05/2019 at 10:48, paul wood said: Two Nepalese regiments received tbe Victory medal for services in Waziristan. All the other regiments received just the BWM. Nepalese units also served in the 3rd Afghan war. I have a sizeable section of Nepalese contingent medals. Paul Hello Paul, I have a vic to a RFM Dhaman Singh Khatri M.D. The information that was provided to me was that this RFM was a member of a Royal Nepalese Army Contingent of Mahindra Dal, with the M.D. reportedly standing for Battalion in Nepalese. Would you have any further information on these units? Regards, Rob Edited May 14, 2019 by RobW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul wood Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Rob, Mahindra Dal Paltan (paltan =regiment). One of the two regiments who saw Waziri service. Nice do you have the accompanying BWM Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 09:10, paul wood said: Rob, Mahindra Dal Paltan (paltan =regiment). One of the two regiments who saw Waziri service. Nice do you have the accompanying BWM Paul Hi Paul, Unfortunately not. I almost stumbled across the vic when looking for a particular indian vic group to a member of 52nd Sikhs/Frontier Force Regiment. Good to know that the recipient served in Waziristan. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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