Spasm Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Chaps and Chapesses I recently aquired a relic helmet with no vents. Blimey. I originally thought it was a M1942 with the outurned rim. On closer inspection the rear rim is stamped cKl64 (Eisenhuttenwerke in Thale) size 64cm. Checking out various very knowledgeable sites there seems to be a train of thought that these are M1945s and were only manufactured in a size 66cm. There seems to be dispute as to whether they are reproductions or extremely rare mis-manufactured late war helmets. What do I do, chaps and chapesses, throw it away or guard it with my life? Spaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belaruski Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well, don't throw it away! But you should post some pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Ok, so I started off with a pile of relic helmets like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 While going through them to clean, protect etc to give them new life, I found this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 You can clearly see there's no vent. I had a proper dig for it as well as they are normally filled in with mud, rust etc. Here's the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Oooops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Here's the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Most relics have no remains of manufacturer, size or batch numbers but this one does (I've tried to enhance the picture so that the stamp can be seen more clearly....... ahem) It's a cKl64 batch 3248. I have no helmet books so have had to rely on t'tinternet where these have been called an M1945. Although there's no written proof, these were either manufactured incorrectly and in a rush or done just after the war. Nothing clear other than one site saying they were all 66cm - this is clearly a 64cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 By the way, this is how they will end up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Hopefully brought back to life to be cared for a bit longer in someone's collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 I agree. I would have to say that it is one of those M45 helmets. Who did the the paint work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spasm Posted September 16, 2012 Author Share Posted September 16, 2012 Yes, seems as though the jury is out on designation. Probably just an M42 produced without vents to quicken things up or not actually finished in the factory. No idea how this ended up in France as the factory was overrun by the Russians I believe. Paintworks are by me. Most of them are close to death as they are more hole than helmet. But I like to give them a bit of history based on where they were found (If that info is available). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So what is the difference? M42 without vents and the helmet designated(by collectors) as an M45? Still a very rare duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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