Paul R Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 I just received this really cool medal and insignia grouping for AMCS Hugh Junor, a WW2 and Korean War era vet.
IrishGunner Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Nice little group. But what makes you say "Korea"?
Laurence Strong Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 Very nice Paul What are the different medals? Larry
Paul R Posted March 24, 2013 Author Posted March 24, 2013 Hi Rick and Larry, He served from 1939 until 1959. He has a National Defense Service Medal on his ribbon bar. I dont know why it is not on medal bar. The medals are: Coast Guard Good Conduct Medal American Defense Service Medal North American Campaign Medical Asiatic Campaign Medal WW2 Victory Medal. His first four years of service were in the Navy. His Navy Good Conduct Medal and National Defense Service Medal are missing. For some reason, it looks as if he opted not to wear his Navy GCM on his CG uniform. Note the absence of it on the CG Ribbon bar.
army historian Posted March 24, 2013 Posted March 24, 2013 If I remember correctly - most services only allowed a service man to wear one Good conduct until recently. Hard to tell on Korean service with out his history. George
Paul R Posted March 24, 2013 Author Posted March 24, 2013 I know that he did not deploy. He retired in 1959, so he was definitely eligible for the National Defense Service Medal, as seen on his ribbon bar. George, Thank you. I had no idea about the one Good Conduct Medal rule. Do you know(approximately) how long ago that rule changed?
IrishGunner Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Was wondering why the bar with the Navy GCM also has a star on the American Defense Service Medal; wonder which clasp he earned. Also, why isn't the star on the bar with the USCG GCM.
Paul R Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 It does not look like any of the stars from his ribbon bars made it onto the medal bar. That would have been an easy thing for a counterfeiter to add too. Either the medal bar was made early on in his CG career or he really did not care too much about them. I know a lot of people in these days who did not care enough to add stars and etc to their large medals.
IrishGunner Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 It does not look like any of the stars from his ribbon bars made it onto the medal bar. That would have been an easy thing for a counterfeiter to add too. Either the medal bar was made early on in his CG career or he really did not care too much about them. I know a lot of people in these days who did not care enough to add stars and etc to their large medals. I meant the ribbon bar; not the medal bar. He had the star on the earlier Navy ribbon bar, but didn't add it to the later Coast Guard ribbon bar - even though the GCM has the multiple stars.
Paul R Posted March 25, 2013 Author Posted March 25, 2013 Oh. I read in the Bender book that the authorized clasps were different for the Coast Guard than for the Navy. I will have to take a look at that again.
Paul R Posted March 27, 2013 Author Posted March 27, 2013 OK. I was able to read up on the topic of the American Defense Medal Clasps. The only one allowed by the Coast Guard was the one for "Sea". The Navy allowed for various other clasps. Since his rate both in the Navy and Coast Guard were aviation based, he may not have been on sea duty during that time in the Navy, but qualifed for one of the other clasps(Foreign Duty). When he transferred to the Coast Guard, the only clasp that would have been allowed to carry over would be a sea service(Vessel) clasp, so he may have lost the right to wear it when he switched services. Also, I remember seeing somewhere that other service Good Conduct Medals were not allowed to be worn on uniform unless they were from the same service. I will have to see when this rule was changed. This may explain for the missing Navy Good Conduct Medal.
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