The Prussian Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Yes, but there stands "Zum Teil" (partly). I thought, you had a more acacurate source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 So Prussian and Württemberg Gebirgs Artillery had red piping on their Bergmützen while Bavarian Gebirgs Artillery had black piping on their Bergmützen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Kraus said, the black piping came in may 22, 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I believe May 1915 was when Gebirgs Artillery got their Bergmützen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Right, mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcalkins Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I have been following this interesting conversation. So am I to understand that there were Prussian troops that wore a Bergmütze? I knew of course about the Württemberg and Bavarian mountain/ski troops...but Prussian also? Please tell me more!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hello! Yes, of course. Some prussian units wore the mountain-uniforms during the battles in East-Prussia and the Carpathians. Most of the caps were made in Bavaria, so I don´t know, which piping-colour they had. 5000 caps were sent to Heeresgruppe Eichhorn and later 6000 caps for Finland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) There were Prussian Gebirgs Artillery units that wore them. One of the Bataillons in the 3rd JR Rgt was Prussian, they too wore them. Prussia had a good number of Gebirgs units. Prussia had atleast 2-3 units of these types -> Gebirgs Artillery, Gebirgs MW, Gebirgs MG. @The Prussian Green for the 3rd JR Rgt, red as you said above for Gebirgs Artillery. I was told Gebirgs MG (Minus the 2 komps in the W.G.B) and Gebirgs MW didn't wear Bergmützen Edited May 4, 2017 by KMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcalkins Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Thank you for the information. Very interesting. Here are three very nice pics. Unfortunately I don't own any of these caps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hello : Nigel Thomas and Ramiro Bujeiro saids : The 21 Mountain Artillery ,15 Prussian , two of Wurttemberg and four Bavarian were grouped into six bataillons . On 21 january 1916 Prussian and Bavarian replaced their M 1914 field grey ski caps with standard field artillery headgear . also saids that Wurttemberg batteries wore the M1914 ski litewka with black collar piping and field grey shoulder straps with black unit insignia . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) Those first 2 are nice, but something odd..I thought Württemberg Bergmütze only had wool visors..Since they are private purchased models, anything is possible! Maybe they had a 3rd option, black leather, grey leather and wool unlike Bavaria and Prussia where they had black and grey visor. Edited May 5, 2017 by KMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 (edited) I´d like to show my mountain-photos 1) bavarian Mountain-Artillery (GA = Gebirgsartillerie) 2) Schneeschuh-Bataillon Nr.3 (collar numnber!) 3) Musiscians of Schneeschuh-Bataillon 3 4) Schneeschuh-Ersatz-Abteilung with Windjacke (Windcheater) 5) unknown unit 6) württemberg. Ersatz-Gebirgs-MG-Zug 7) württemberg. Gebirgs-Regiment 8) Post-War Edited May 6, 2017 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Anyone else have photos of Bergmützen they could share? They are neat caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 On 6/5/2017 at 02:04, The Prussian said: I´d like to show my mountain-photos 1) bavarian Mountain-Artillery (GA = Gebirgsartillerie) 2) Schneeschuh-Bataillon Nr.3 (collar numnber!) 3) Musiscians of Schneeschuh-Bataillon 3 4) Schneeschuh-Ersatz-Abteilung with Windjacke (Windcheater) 5) unknown unit 6) württemberg. Ersatz-Gebirgs-MG-Zug 7) württemberg. Gebirgs-Regiment 8) Post-War The men in this photo are soldiers of the Weimar Reichswehr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Yes! Like I wrote: 8) Post-war. I´d like to know something about the cap and breast badge of the man in the middle... Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 22 hours ago, The Prussian said: Yes! Like I wrote: 8) Post-war. I´d like to know something about the cap and breast badge of the man in the middle... Any ideas? Perhaps he is a bergfuhrer , a civilian one . The Weimar Army officially not was permitted Mountain units , but in practice these units existed . one was a Infantry Bataillon located in Goslar whose chief one time resulted to be certain Erwin Rommel . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Hello! Never heard, that Rommel was in Goslar... Aftre armistice he went back to his home-company in Weingarten (Christmas 1918). In march 1919 he commanded the "Sicherheits-Kompagnie 32" in Friedrichshafen; in june 1919 he became commander of Schtz.Rgt.25. 1919 and 1920 he was in Lindau, Münsterland and Westfalia. 1924-1929 he served with 13th Inf.Rgt. No mention, he served in Goslar Edited October 23, 2020 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcalkins Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I found this cap....it sold recently in a Czerny's auction. I wish I had seen it before the auction date!!! Anyway, it is a nice example of the cloth visored style. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 the Prussian , take a look to the book Rommel of Brigadier Young. Rommel was from April 1932 as Major,commander of the third Bataillon of the 17th Infantry Regiment ,a Mountain Unit stationed in Goslar . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Opps, I´m sorry. You´re right!!!! But it was very late...(1933-1935) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 In fact was decisive point of his career , When he was given the command in 1932 Hitler was not Chancellor , In September of 1934 Hitler paid a visit to Goslar , Rommels Bataillon was in charge of the honours and security.or so thought Rommel . with great disgust he received the notification that the security wil be per count of the SS , He went to a local hotel were Goebbels and Himmler were taking breakfast and expressed his convictions . They gave him the reason and as it was as Rommel called the Attention of Hitler for first time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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