Joe Sweeney Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I don't purchase much off of ebay these days as prices seem to be out of this world on nice things. I actually rarely buy German (I mainly collect and study British), but recently have tried to close the gaps in some areas such as Patronentasche's buckles etc that I did not have and needed to match to tunics. I can only say I've ever had extreme luck on two items. The 1st was a 1903 dated Brodrick cap to the RFA that no-one knew what it was. The 2nd is below: A Great War German Trikofabrik (jersey) undershirt with owners marking tag. I believe some of the buttons to be replacements such as the collar button. I was the only bidder!!!!!??I actually did not expect to win--However, it was posted in an odd place--I was just looking for a crown 1915 button and this turned up in the search engine not under "uniforms". It matches one I have had for decades--marked to the II Korps--- II Garniture: Hope this is of interest. Please post other examples of German shirts I'd like to see them. Joe Sweeney
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 That is interesting. I have never seen one, never mind owning one! Were they always white?
Joe Sweeney Posted October 22, 2013 Author Posted October 22, 2013 Chris, The flash made the shirt whiter than it actually is. However, of the few originals and photos of I've seen or handled, they appear this color. Kraus actually says beige--if beige it is a very pale beige. Shirts were also made in a cotton duck like cloth. Joe Sweeney
Chip Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 I've got six German shirts, one of which is a navy issue, which I believe is quite scarce. I guess I have a fetish, because I also have British, French and Austrian examples. I also have matching issue Unterhosen for the German and Austrian sets.Chip
Joe Sweeney Posted October 22, 2013 Author Posted October 22, 2013 I've got six German shirts, one of which is a navy issue, which I believe is quite scarce. I guess I have a fetish, because I also have British, French and Austrian examples. I also have matching issue Unterhosen for the German and Austrian sets. Chip Oh No!!!!--I'm not the only one who collects old underwear!!! I don't have the Austrian versions but I do have British and French. I also have Canadian made shirt but a not set of under drawers. chip when you have a chance please post photos of your German stuff. Joe Sweeney
Hoss Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 Blast! Where was it hidden ??? Eric btw I'm looking for a pr of the winter bottoms not the summer cotton jobs they give me a rash!!
Chip Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 Joe,The issue marks were normally right where your Etikett is. I wouldn't pull it off to look, but they are probably there.Chip
Chip Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 I'll try to take some pictures this coming weekend. I have some unpacking to do, but at least I know where they are!
Joe Sweeney Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Chip, No intention of lifting the Etikett. Thanks in advance for posting photo's of your Hemd and Unterhosen!!! The second Trikot hemd I posted above also had these markings: I'm assuming 2nd Bavarian Corps based on the manufacturer but I know that might not be the case. I think it is 2nd Garnature issue and this shirt has all its original buttons. I do not have a pair of Trikot Unterhose but the seem to pop-up more often than the hemd. I do have two pairs of the 1910 Koperunterhosen. These seem to be fairly commonly encountered too. The first is dated 1914 to the XIII Korps GR 123. And to frame the War a 1918 dated pair: You wouldn't happen to have a pair of Fusslappen or socks that you could post photos of??? Joe Sweeney
Chip Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Joe,Unfortunately, no Fußlappen or socks. I don't recall ever seeing any Fußlappen. I finally dug out my shirts and Hosen, it took half a day to get them out, set up and photograph them, put them away and then download and edit the photos! Whew!. I ran out of steam before I got to the Hosen. I photographed my army shirts, my navy shirts and then my Austrian shirt.Here are the first few.
Chip Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 I know this is somewhat off subject, but here is an Austrian issue linen shirt. I have the matching Hosen too, marked from the same maker.I will add more of my German shirts as time permits.
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Fantastically interesting... I dont have an example... This may seem like a strange question... but do they smell like sweat? I am always astounded how almost hundred year old things can stink of BO
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Only after I take them off. You know... some guys would not surprise me if they said that.... but you!?!?
Joe Sweeney Posted November 3, 2013 Author Posted November 3, 2013 Chip, Your effort is much appreciated. Your second Trikothemd is the spitting image of the second one I have in the photos above down to the off set BAII mark and size. I wonder if these two were originally sourced together? Take care Joe Sweeney
Chip Posted November 3, 2013 Posted November 3, 2013 Your second Trikothemd is the spitting image of the second one I have in the photos above down to the off set BAII mark and size. I wonder if these two were originally sourced together?Joe,Due to their unissued condition, I would say that is a pretty good bet. I got mine in a trade with Tony Meldahl in 1991. He had brought a bunch of stuff back from Germany. Perhaps he had more than one?Chip
Hoss Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 Thanks for showing and the terminology not heard 'trikofabrik' before cool. Eric
Chip Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Hoss,I don't think "Trikofabrik" is actually a word in German. The shirts were made of Trikot (jersey), but "fabrik" does not mean fabric.The other cotton material that shirts were made from was called "Körper", which in German translates to twill, but we would just call it cotton linen.Unterhosen were also made from both materials (weaves).Chip Edited November 5, 2013 by Chip
Hoss Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Thanks Chip Joe thanks for showing Have you not ever had the chance to own a pr of issue socks? I have but fainted at the price they're not much different to early TR issue I thought at the time. I'll try to take some pics of my 'undies' this week. they are kind of an awkward collectible think I'll put mine on a mannequin. Eric
Chris Boonzaier Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 There were a pair of pants in ebay this week, went for EUR53... i should have bid more.....
Chip Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 Here is one of my navy issue shirts. You don't see these very often. It's part of my naval infantry set. Chip
Chip Posted December 17, 2013 Posted December 17, 2013 I also have a navy issue Drillich suit. This is the top. The matching bottoms have the same marks. Chip
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