E Williams Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Who might be the resident expert? Just received a call from a guy who has a couple of pieces. I did do a forum search and one photo showed up.
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Are we talking about the regular breast plate with 3 lower elements?
E Williams Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 Are we talking about the regular breast plate with 3 lower elements?I believe so Chris. He will send me photos later tonight. I think two of the three lower plates are not there.
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 It is not really just for machine gunners... In fact, I think it would be pretty difficult to use one with an MG...more of a sentry thing if I remember correctly.... They dont cost the world, and i would avoid it if plates were missing, they will not be easy to replace. Best Chris
E Williams Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 Got the photos and it looks like only a front body plate and the rear. There is an hole bullet hole in the front plate. Photos follow..............http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-39386500-1382989726.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-41688300-1382989727.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-52220500-1382989728.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-79011600-1382989729.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-55390500-1382989731.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-47592000-1382989734.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-99070700-1382989735.jpg
E Williams Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Depends on the price I GuessIt's not for me. Just trying to get an idea for a guy I know that collects WWII US paratrooper and many other items. Edited October 28, 2013 by E Williams
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Ed I've never seen a back plate before interesting they usually flopped the whole thing over their backs. Adler has a beautiful collection maybe he'll grace us with its presence. Eric
E Williams Posted October 28, 2013 Author Posted October 28, 2013 EdI've never seen a back plate before interesting they usually flopped the whole thing over their backs. Adler has a beautiful collection maybe he'll grace us with its presence. EricI know nuttin about body armor. From what I've seen, there was no back plate. Front plate looks legit but missing the lower plates. Worth??? $50. bucks??????????
Hoss Posted October 28, 2013 Posted October 28, 2013 Ed Pics are terrible I'm guessing the 'back plate' is some allied front thingy 50 bucks is a bit 'light' lol! cheap git.
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 I think the single front plates can range from 400-800, depending on condition and model?
Adler 1 Posted October 29, 2013 Posted October 29, 2013 A rear plate for the grabenpanzer? Never heard of it, never seen one. Nevertheless, a grabenpanzer is rare nowadays, only the condition of this one isn't so good anymore and it's not complete... of course this has infuence on the price... I once wrote a little article about this interesting piece of hardwear: Here's a picture of a few grabenpanzers... Adler 1
E Williams Posted October 29, 2013 Author Posted October 29, 2013 Thanks gentlemen...I have passed all the info on to my friend. Much appreciated. Nice complete display Adler.
Adler 1 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Glad I could be of assistance... however the link seems to be gone. Is this against the rules (if so, I appologize) or is it just gone? Eric, In the collecting field I might presume ... Adler
Chris Boonzaier Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Hi, A link is usually no problem? Try put it in again?
Adler 1 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Ok, here it comes: http://www.walhalla.se/topic/14662-the-grabenpanzer-what-do-we-know/?hl=grabenpanzer Adler 1 Edited October 30, 2013 by Adler 1
Chip Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Nevertheless, a grabenpanzer is rare nowadays,Karel,You must not have ever seen the old display at the Royal Museum of the Armed Forces in Brussels! Chip
Adler 1 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Of course I have seen that in the good old days. Everybody was devostated when they changed the WW1 collection and took all the Grabenpanzers of the walls. Still wondering where they are now... Anyway, last time I visited the museum, they only had about 7 or so on display... Adler 1
Chip Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 They had so many sets. I wondered if they sold some off after they took them down. I have to admit that the museum did need some conservation steps taken, as when I last saw it in the early 1980s, there was obvious damage from sunlight, insects and gravity. Like everyone else, I wish they could have done that without totally ruining the old world type of museum display. The sheer volume of items, many of them quite rare, was astounding.Chip
Adler 1 Posted November 1, 2013 Posted November 1, 2013 Yes, they sold a lot to dealers and collectors... now I wish I had more money in those days ... Adler 1
Hoss Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Hello Karel Do you have better photos of the helmet cover on display? Eric
E Williams Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 I came across a top shield section while surfing the net, $900.00 was the asking price.
Adler 1 Posted November 4, 2013 Posted November 4, 2013 Sorry Eric, that's all I have of this display and I've heard they are rebuilding the WW1 section at the moment... Ed, if you want to buy one, I would suggest to wait for a complete one... and maybe also save some funds to pay for it ... Adler 1
E Williams Posted November 4, 2013 Author Posted November 4, 2013 Sorry Eric, that's all I have of this display and I've heard they are rebuilding the WW1 section at the moment...Ed, if you want to buy one, I would suggest to wait for a complete one... and maybe also save some funds to pay for it ... Adler 1I'm not interested myself. I'd rather put the money into a Luger, my primary collecting interest. I don't have a place to display it anyway.
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