IrishGunner Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 This came up for auction a week or so ago. At the time, I found the crossed cannons interesting because I had not seen those type before. I asked Chip for some advice and he told me that the "crossed cannon barrels normally indicate an official of the Technische Institut der Artillerie. The board underlay for such an official is carmine red (karmesinrot)." We were both confused by the blue underlay. So, I put a bid in for around $20 bucks and surprisingly, I won the auction. So, for $20 bucks we get to kick this around and hopefully someone can give some more information in what type artillery unit this Hauptmann would have served. (The auction called it a Leutnant, but it's easy to see there is a missing pip.) Comments/thoughts? (The photo is the seller's...my Epson scanner is on sabbatical since I had scanner driver conflicts that remain unresolved.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Some early war AK had a blue underlay..... seems to be either a very rare unusual item.... or a pretty strange item..... I hope it is the former.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 I hope so too. Though it is too tatty ... missing a pip and moth damage ... to be made-up I think. What do you mean by "early war AK"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Hello IG! Pietsch, Vol.II, page 290 says ("Offiziere der technischen Institute") "These officers were à la suite of their units, so they wore their uniforms. Since 1902 (14.5.) they had a new uniform. Infantry uniform with swedish cuffs, bright-blue epaulettes and shoulder boards! There were crossed rifles for infantry and crossed canons for artillery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Andy, thanks! So, this strap dates some time between 1902 until what date? Did they change to red at some later point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What do you mean by "early war AK"? Hi, Some Corps had Blue for their infantry (for example) but soon all were white? Maybe something along those lines for this board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks Chris, I thought you were referring to ArmeeKorps colors, but wasn't sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I think, Chip was wrong with "red". Kraus, also, says, they always had blue based-shoulder-boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hellblau is correct. Chip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Hello Chip! By the way, it´s time again for a small skype-writing, isn´t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Thanks guys! Not a bad pick up then for less than $25 including shipping. Now I wonder if I should (or can) replace missing pip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 You should if you can.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 You should if you can.... Got any extra pips lying around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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