Colin O. Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Hello Gents,I would be very grateful if you would have a look at this cap and tell me what you think, is it a good one? i'm considering it in an exchange deal.....depending on what you guy's think.Many thanks.Colin.
Colin O. Posted March 7, 2006 Author Posted March 7, 2006 and the last one for now, if you need any pictures of any particular areas please just say, the stiffening band is a card type material if that helps.thanks for your time.Colin O.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Michel is the expert on these, I'm sure he will chip in when he sees it but my own feeling is that it is an early postwar Bundesmarine cap. For sure, the August Geiger firm survived the war and was active making Bundesmarine headgear. I've never seen an original Matrosenm?tze with lining like this to the crown. Also it looks very much like the bead of pvc like material that connects the sweatband to the band of the cap. The originals I have had have always had the sweatband sewn directly to the cap.Wait for Michel's verdict though.
KM-SPAIN Posted March 7, 2006 Posted March 7, 2006 Hello, I agree with Gordon, for me is a postwar cap also.
Michel Posted March 8, 2006 Posted March 8, 2006 Hello Colin,I agree with Gordon and Eduardo.Regards,Michel
Colin O. Posted March 8, 2006 Author Posted March 8, 2006 Thanks very much to you all for your replies, it's a shame because it made a good focal point for my fledgling KM collection........oh well, the hunt goes on.Colin.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Just for comparison, here is a real one that Michel picked up at Kassel and very kindly passed on to me.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 This is what I'd expect to see once you remove the cover from one of these, very little remains, just the blue cloth covered band stiffener with sweatband sewn directly to it.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 The actual stiffener inside the band is usually a greyish/blue opaque celluloid material.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Close up of the distinctive "waffle" pattern weave to the cover.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Same form of construction, same type of sweatband, sewn directly to the cap.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Makers stamp on inside of sweatband, dated 1941
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Same opaque greyish/blue celluloid interior stiffener.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Covers for the blue top lined in black and usually have the Bekleidungsamt stamp in white. (Here BAW - Bekleidungsamt Wilhelmshaven). This top, like the band, dated 1941.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 An early postwar Bundesmarine cap. These early blue tops are scarce in their own right, blue tops are no longer worn, the white tops being used all year round instead of just for summer.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Similar construction to the wartime ones.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Band stiffener is shiny black card. Note plastic strip between sweatband and band.
Gordon Williamson Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Blue lining to cover, with plastic sweatshield
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